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2016 Group Christmas Project Suggestions
2016 Group Christmas Project Suggestions for the Fiddlerman Group Project.
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Fiddlerman
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October 11, 2016 - 12:38 pm
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I would like to use this thread to get suggestions for the next 2016 group project.
Please help contribute. Bill sent me this via a PM and I figured I would just paste it here for his sake. 🙂

He has more ideas but wanted to limit himself.

BillyG said:

Here's a few - 

"Recent" pieces - copyright permitting

 Mike Oldfield - In Dulci Jubilo

 Pogues - Fairytale of New York

Traditional and/or classical-based

Pierpoint - Jingle Bells "rocked up a bit maybe"

Holst ( ? ) - In the Bleak midwinter

Handel - Joy to the world ( well the music, allegedly ) 

          -  Hallelujah Chorus

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I have yet to participate in a group project but my favorites -

Gesu Bambino

Jesu Joy of Man's Desiring

Night of Silence

Violinist start date -  May 2013  

Fiddler start date - May 2014

FIDDLE- Gift from a dear friend. A 1930-40 german copy, of a french copy of a Stradivarius.  BOW - $50 carbon fiber. Strings - Dominants with E Pirastro Gold string.

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KindaScratchy
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October 11, 2016 - 9:18 pm
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I mostly prefer traditional pieces, such as:

  • What Child is This?
  • Angels We Have Heard on High
  • Hark the Herald Angels Sing
  • O Come All Ye Faithful
  • Joy to the World
  • O Little Town of Bethlehem
  • O Come, O Come Emmanuel
  • O Christmas Tree
  • We Three Kings
  • The First Noel
  • The Holly and the Ivy

But nice contemporary songs are:

  • There's No Place Like Home for the Holidays
  • Jingle Bell Rock
  • Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree
  • Frosty the Snowman

So many to choose from...

When the work's all done and the sun's settin' low,

I pull out my fiddle and I rosin up the bow.

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How about Judy Garland's "Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas?"  There is an available score for it: https://nikolaiclavier.wordpress.com/sheet-music/

Here's the complete score:

https://nikolaiclavier.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/have-yourself-a-merry-little-christmas-string-quintet-full-score.pdf

Here's the youtube score so you can hear (and see) what it sounds like:

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I like Uzi's suggestion.  That has a lot of fun stuff that doesn't sound too hard.  Of course Game of Thrones didn't sound to hard either. (Argh!)

How about Carol of the Bells/God Rest ye Merry Gentlemen?  The "bells" part looks like it might either be really hard, or really easy depending on the fingering.  We don't have as much time to practice for a Christmas tune.

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PopFiddle said

How about Carol of the Bells/God Rest ye Merry Gentlemen?  The "bells" part looks like it might either be really hard, or really easy depending on the fingering.  We don't have as much time to practice for a Christmas tune.  

Love those, too, but they've already been done.

Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas is nice.

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I am so excited about this.

 

I ADORE Uzi's Idea and I love that song so much.

 

I also am inclined to all on Diane's list, as I can play most already.

🙂

YAY... I can't wait for our Christmas song.

Love,

Toni

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Fiddlerman
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October 22, 2016 - 5:16 pm
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I love it too. Let's discuss "Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas" and how we want to do it. I'm happy with using that score as it saves me the time and effort involved in doing the sheet music.

I contacted Nikolai about permission.

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October 22, 2016 - 10:30 pm
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I already got a response from Nikolai Clavier, the guy who posted the arrangement. So I guess we have our next piece. 🙂

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Hello Mr. Holstein.

Of course, you are free to use my arrangements as much as you want! I looked at your youtube channel, and your project looks amazing! It is quite unique in my experience, binding people together in this way through music and creating a "virtual orchestra". Good luck to all of you! 

Yours sincerely,
Nikolai Clavier.

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Well.. that is just very very exciting news.

 

What a lovely letter Pierre!!!  I am soooooo excited.

Thanks!christmaswreathchristmaswreathchristmaswreathchristmaswreath

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Very nice choice! We could use a snare drum and a brush to give it that Judy-Garland version mellowness.  I am looking forward to it.

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I haven't been around for awhile but I came today hoping to find a new group project to keep me motivated. This arrangement is amazing, one of my favorite Christmas tunes to play, though I usually play it very slow and sad, so this is such a fun change. Looking forward to attempting it and also wondering if the bass part could be played as a cello?

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Perfect @Just4Fun - We'll enjoy having you on this one.

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A reminder, if anyone does not want to read from the whole score, there are individual parts at the above link.  Here is the link again:

https://nikolaiclavier.wordpress.com/sheet-music/

Scroll down a little bit and you will see "Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas" all five parts are available.

This will be fun.  Time to get serious about the vibrato.

Pierre, can we get a due date?  We are already into November.

Also, we need a click track unless there is some way we can download the YouTube video as an MP3 file.

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Here you go @PopFiddle / everyone - this is the "stand-alone mp3 version" of the above You Tube video.   It is taken directly from the video, it should be identical.   There is a 7 second silent lead-in to let you start your playback device and pick up the bow !

It is entirely unchanged from the sound-track on the video - so - there is no "count-down" or any assistance like that.    So I'm not entirely sure how helpful it will be, but here it is anyway....

I download many YT videos and then split out the audio, either using my video editor app (or even just using Audacity with the vid playing either live off YT or the downloaded vid playing through Media Player)

Here's a link to a useful downloader - it's free - http://en.savefrom.net/1-how-t.....ube-video/   I have found it to be totally reliable when, once you're about to download, if you choose the formats MP4 720 HD, MP4 360 or FLV 240.  However - do take note - the other two download modes marked "via Ummy" looked a bit "strange"....  I'm not saying this "Ummy" thing tried to load a virus, but I detected unusual network activity and stopped it....   The first 3 formats I mentioned - well - I've used them over and over for in excess of a year - no issues at all

And here's the extracted MP3 - 

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Hmmmm....  just a little bit more on the above - not 100% happy really - tell you why - I entered the violin solo, and the vln 1 parts into MuseScore.   I took note of the tempo change from 75bpm for the first 8 bars, to 80bpm for the rest.

Long story short - I cannot make the MuseScore playback line up with the original soundtrack - it's about 6 seconds out by the end of the piece - when played against the original, my MuseScore version gradually moves out of synch, and ends 6 seconds early.

This is strange, because I have done this before (with MIDI or synthesised backing tracks - like the GOT project and others) and it is always - within any noticeable or measurable difference - the same in terms of playing time....

I just mention this, since no doubt some folks will want to use a metronome and maybe just play from sheet - bother - I have to go out - I'll update this post on my return later today....

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I'll get going on a page for this project soon. Thanks everyone.

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Right - I'm back - update to the post #16 above - simple maths ( well, arithmetic ) tells us this from the score - 

4/4 time

First part -

1/4 note = 75bpm for 8 bars

i.e. 8 bars = 32 x 1/4 notes, each 1/4 note lasting 60/75 seconds = 0.8 seconds

So, Opening 8 bars lasts (0.8 * 32) seconds = 25.6 seconds

Second part

1/4 note = 80bpm for 57 - 8 = 49 bars

i.e. 49 bars = 196 x 1/4 notes, each 1/4 note lasting 60/80 seconds = 0.75 seconds

So, final 49 bars lasts (0.75 * 196) seconds = 147 seconds

Total duration should be 147 + 25.6 seconds = 172.6 seconds

= 172.6/60 = 2.88 minutes = 2 mins 53 seconds

 

And that's exactly how long the entered MuseScore version runs for.  You'll understand - I just HAD to do this check in case something HORRID had happened within the underlying timing of MuseScore ( I do a lot of wicked things with the sound and low-level MIDI drivers and I had to convince myself that nothing untoward had happened !!! facepalm).

The upshot of this little experiment is - no - you cannot rely on the video, or the extracted MP3  I provided above for anything other than early practice - do NOT use it for submissions - we'll need a properly created MIDI/MP3 to work from as a click/backing track - as @Fiddlerman says in post #17 above...

This has been a busy day - and now I have to go out again...   rats....  laters

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@PopFiddle Thank you!!  You rock!!  

@BillyG thank you for the help... we can work on the parts and get it in our heads a bit and fine tune when FM gets the "official" versions.

 

@Fiddlerman yay yay for a page soon.

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I did it a week ago but no click back yet.
http://fiddlerman.com/2016/11/.....christmas/

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