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I won't even comment but it's working for you all the time.


Incubation

Incubation is a temporary break from creative problem solving that can result in insight.[26] There has been some empirical research looking at whether, as the concept of "incubation" in Wallas' model implies, a period of interruption or rest from a problem may aid creative problem-solving. Ward[27] lists various hypotheses that have been advanced to explain why incubation may aid creative problem-solving, and notes how some empirical evidence is consistent with the hypothesis that incubation aids creative problem-solving in that it enables "forgetting" of misleading clues. Absence of incubation may lead the problem solver to become fixated on inappropriate strategies of solving the problem.[28] This work disputes the earlier hypothesis that creative solutions to problems arise mysteriously from the unconscious mind while the conscious mind is occupied on other tasks.[29]

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Well, that explains why I can struggle with my homework or exams and then come up with the solution while lying in bed that night.

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It explains why my mother always told me : "La nuit porte conseil" (Night is the mother of counsel)

"It can sing like a bird, it can cry like a human being, it can be very angry, it can be all that humans are" Maxim Vengerov

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Gee, I guess that the idea was/is pretty well known before my discovery in American medical journals.

Very useful notion however.

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Love that insight Oliver!  I think the next time my wife asks me to take her car in for service, I'm gonna tell her that I will let that thought incubate! thumbs-up

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Creativity can sometimes appear to be procrastination but this is only an innocent confusion by the uninitiated.  We can only be patient.

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Yep! Illuminations always catch me in most inappropriate situations - in a bus, on the work or when i'm discussing something totally unrelated...rofl

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All the more delicious !

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I think this is one of the reasons that young children are so creative.  They are in an almost constant state of incubation!  No one is better at divergent thinking than kids!

 

I need to incubate more!  😉

“It is more fun to talk with someone who doesn't use long, difficult words but rather short, easy words like "What about lunch?"”

--Winnie the Pooh

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Good point.

The almost constant rush up the learning curve dancing

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Most people at the office know that when I am sitting at my desk, unmoving, eyes closed [preferably NOT snoring] I am working REALLY hard and shouldn't be disturbed!!!

 

Actually, they do know if it is a doozy of a problem, if the solution doesn't immediately strike, it probably will hit me when I go off to read the newspaper in the lobby....

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I'm taking bi-weekly Mandarin lessons.  For me, learning Mandarin Chinese is an interesting, yet slow and, at times, painful process.  There have been countless time when I have been studying or trying to complete an assignment before my lesson and I couldn't remember a word or phrase so I would ask my three year old daughter if she knew (I often go over my lessons with the kids, since the point of me learning is that I want them to learn!).  Almost a hundred percent of the time, she will look up from whatever she is playing with, casually tell me the Chinese for whatever I just asked her and go back to playing like it's no big thing.  My two year old can could to 10 and knows his many of his colors in Chinese.  I alternate between being amazed and frustrated as all get out!!!  I have to admit that I am hoping that once I get my violin and start playing in front of them, one of my wee beasties will show the same interest and aptitude in playing as they do in speaking Chinese!  🙂

“It is more fun to talk with someone who doesn't use long, difficult words but rather short, easy words like "What about lunch?"”

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Mandarin? 10/10,! That is one difficult Language, too many tones. Ii gave up after 2 months. My chinese G/F at the times was always laughing (and frowning) at my pronunciation.
Japanese proved to be far easier, and I think my Japanese business partners tried incubation listening many times by falling asleep in meetings, yet could still carry on writing! Go figure!!

I was born with nothing,
and to my surprise I still have most of it left!

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@dioysia

Can I suggest a "Do Not Disturb" sign for your office? 

@Cherie

Believe it or not, my Son is a lay priest in the Boston area and his group is known as Boston Chinese.  Most speak English and Chinese is also often used in the services.

Guess what?  During my last visit I noticed my 11 year old Grand Daughter reciting parts of the service in Mandarin !!!  (Gimme a break !!)  I was so shocked that I failed to check out my Grand Son.  She is maybe one of 10 kids in that Sunday school and the others are Chinese.

She also just dumped her violin lessons after a few months with a "gotta be kiddin" attitude.  She took up the flute and is playing surprisingly well after just a few months.

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to Oliver,

I don't think kids know how difficult it can be to learn a language, they just get on with it.

I was born with nothing,
and to my surprise I still have most of it left!

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It is proved scientifically that kids are sponges and before the age of 14? It's said it's the best time to teach them languages, they are built to remember extremely well in that period of their development. That's why we struggle more as adults for new things.

"It can sing like a bird, it can cry like a human being, it can be very angry, it can be all that humans are" Maxim Vengerov

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NoirVelours said
It is proved scientifically that kids are sponges and before the age of 14?

Then they turn into people. partyexactlybirthday_balloon

Sorry, I couldn't resist.....

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but the one who needs the least."

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WaaaHaaaHaaa!roflroflroflroflrofl

Yep, after an incubation period... LOL

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...problem solver to become fixated on inappropriate strategies of solving the problem.[28] 

Inappropriate?

What is so inappropriate about thinking.  Perhaps they meant PSEUDO-PRODUCTIVE or LESS THAN IDEAL strategies.

Nevertheless, I see the point; perhaps that's why the British take an afternoon tea and the American workforce wastes 20 -60 percent of their day checking email.

Nothing like an inappropriate time out to prevent fixating on an inappropriate strategy!  

coffee1

 

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Children absorb knowledge faster I think, because their brain's are not full of useless information.

Like eating dinner, they won't finish their main meal, BUT, there's alway's room for "JELLO"

             drooling mmmmm, good.

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