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Oliver
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(diving for a Google search is frowned upon)

1)   What does the notation "con sordino" mean in a music score ?

 

2)   What string usually holds a torte mute in US (community) orchestras ?

 

3)   What string holds the torte mute in FM's videos (Sul Ponticello) ?

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Fiddlerman
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September 7, 2012 - 11:04 pm
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Hmmmmm

Wonder what this is about?

1) con sordino, means with a mute.
2) Usually on the A or D
3) I don't remember but usually I like to keep it on my D string.

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Is there no "standard" string to play the mute?   I thought the video using the "D" might reflect Scandinavian experience ?

The underlying message is that a violin CAN be heard with a tourte mute AND, SOMETIMES, the violin sounds better.

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I got my nine year old a little tourte mute because she complained about her instrument sounding too squeaky (It's really not). With the mute on, the instrument does sound a bit more mellow and she is happier.

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She is happier and has demonstrated the "good ear".  Most student violins give too much treble which is mainly what a tourte mute reduces.

This taming of the sound also encourages better intonation.

Then too, the under-the-chin sound is more pleasant for the player.

Not bad for a little piece of rubber gold_star

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Oliver said
...  Most student violins give too much treble which is mainly what a tourte mute reduces.

This taming of the sound also encourages better intonation.

Then too, the under-the-chin sound is more pleasant for the player.

Not bad for a little piece of rubber gold_star

Hmmm.. Thanks! Didn't know about this. Maybe i should get one for my "oldy"...duncecap

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Tell ya wat Mad.  Because you are an esteemed member of this forum I will let you see a classified photo.  The photo shows tourte mutes cut to various shapes to achieve different pleasing tone effects particularly with an instrument of the sub VSO variety but not excluded from use with better instruments.

Experiment at will but don't cut your fingers.  You can secure any little rubber thingey to the bridge with Elmers Paper Glue. (removable).

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OMG surprised

That's a science! I need a tonne of them to figure out what shape it should be to match a desirable sound fainting-1344

So interesting! Did You try it, Oliver?droolingduncecap

Thanks again! =)

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I do use some and I can move the sound of a violin around very much as if I reset the sound post.

I would suggest top left version on either the "A" or "E".

A razor blade is good to cut the rubber but don't cut your fingers !

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I put a wire mute on my trainwreck about a month ago and its a whole new fiddle...it didnt even have to be up against the bridge to make a difference, Paul happy now..

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