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so the CVN 200 arrived today! 😀

first thing's first, so i moved the bridge back cause it was moved in shipping.  i then got one of the bows and tightened the hairs...wasn't sure how tight it should be so  i just guessed 😛  then i rosened the bow for like 20+ minutes....put it to the strings.....and....the loud sound of nothing! 😛 so i rosen it even more...still nothing. then i thought about when someone on the forum said they cut the top of the rosen off...so i scrape it a little with a knife.  TA DA! sound! 😀 i'll have to find a comfortable way to hold it cause my back started hurting 😛 now its off to slow practice 🙂

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Excellent, gStretch!
Looking forward to tales of your progress.

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Thanks for letting us know G.

I can't wait to hear how you're progressing, but don't be like me and get impatient, you need to start slowly.

Nah ... bugger it ... just go for it!

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gStretch said:

... i rosened the bow for like 20+ minutes....put it to the strings.....and....the loud sound of nothing! 😛 ...

LOL, gStretch!!! That what i passed through too!! rofl 

 

..i'll have to find a comfortable way to hold it cause my back started hurting ..

 

Back, neck, shoulder ... If you find, then share, pleeaaase! i didn't find yet facepalm

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thanks guys 🙂

 

mad-wed, suresh told me to so some stretching or exercise before playing...i guess i should try 😛

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Congratulations once again!

I know how it feels the first time you have your hands on your first violin. It's probably more exciting for you than for me (although I got mine for free as well).  you've got a good violin there, as FM has commented many times how impressed he was with the violin that you have now.

Ditto on Robyn's comment: Start slowly and be patience on working on basic skills. Don't do too much at the beginning, like my daughter's teacher said, one needs to build up the muscle strength (learning to play violin as an adult has adventages as well as disadventages, two of my disadventages is I'm not flexible and my muscles that have not been used would not respond:).

FM has some video clips as well as photos that show you how to hold your violin and bow. I would start there. Suzuki book one has detailed photos that show you how to hold your violin and bow as well. The book also show posture of each string level.

I practiced on open string for a while (still do), then AEA, DAD, and GDG, to get clean bowing on those strings, then GA, DE, AB, and EF#, then twinkle twinkle as well as lightly row on all strings. Then my big mistake was to jump into songs, rather than practicing on scales. Since I don't have a teacher so I don't know what should be next (I need someone to tell me what to do next maybe you don't).

i don't know if your violin came with the book "first lessons: violin" by Duncan Craig, or not, if you do have the book, you probably could follow the book for your progress and along with materials that are available on this website. If i were you, I would not touch second position and so on until I'm more comfortable with first position. May be the FM could tell us when is the best time to start practicing those position. 

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Actually, you are right about not starting positions until you are secure with the first position but if you have a good ear you can start quite early without any problem. It'll take you just as long to become secure with the positions but you'll maybe tackle them a little quicker. I suppose it is like learning several languages at a time. Some people have a special talent for it and others must struggle.

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thanks for all the info pky.

mine came with the book they show on the kk music store.  not sure who wrote it.  i dont like how it starts out on the high strings 😛 playing the violin for the first time is bad enough…but to start out on the high strings..ouch 😛 

i'm still trying to find a comfortable way to hold the violin so my fingers will go to first position automatically.  gotta work on those penta scales 😛

-g

 

(update) 

i dont really care for new languages...new instruments are good though 😛

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Yeah, why do they start with the E and A strings?

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gStretch said:

......i'm still trying to find a comfortable way to hold the violin so my fingers will go to first position automatically.  gotta work on those penta scales

I packed your shoulder-rest in a box and am going to the post office this morning. That might be better for you. In the meanwhile, use this time to learn to hold the violin without gripping it. Balance it on your collarbone/shoulder and find the best spot. Rest your Jaw/chin comfortably at the correct angle (Check my START HERE page) and practice long straight bows. Straight bows from frog to tip are extremely difficult in the beginning.

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Great!! Can't wait to see your video~tongue heheh

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Fiddlerman said:

Straight bows from frog to tip are extremely difficult in the beginning.

I forgot to mention that: work on straight bows and don't swing your upper arm like me:P 

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Shoulder rest is on it's way 🙂

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pky said:

Yeah, why do they start with the E and A strings?

 

it might be because you dont have to hold your arm so high to play the lower strings...my arm gets sore pretty quick on the low strings.

 

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Shoulder rest is on it's way 🙂

thank you 🙂 i might not need it after all. i put on makeup pad on the back, and one on the top of the chinrest...much more comfortable than direct wood 😛

and it didn't fall down 😀

-g 

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Hey G, I suggest putting up a photo at least right away. Your arm or back should not hurt at all. Catch and get rid of bad habits as soon as you can.

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i was thinking about putting a video up this weekend...maybe next weekend. not sure yet. 😛

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Do exactly as you wish.thumbs-up

MGN makes a lot of sense.

What you get in essence are free lessons with advice from quite a few fiddlers. You can if you like, just tape how you are holding the instrument and bow.

If you feel brave you can draw the bow....

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gStretch said:

i was thinking about putting a video up this weekend...maybe next weekend. not sure yet. 😛

-g

Can't wait!cheerleader Can't WAIT!!coffee2 

Really want to see your video with new violin!! Maybe you can record penta- scales you work at?

violin_girl 

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yeah penta-scales...or penta-scale 😛

maybe twinkle twinkle too ;D

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gStretch said:

yeah penta-scales...or penta-scale 😛

maybe twinkle twinkle too ;D

-g

LOL! It would be great even if you play open strings  =D 

But if you can already play twinkle twinkle... dancing

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