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Is the 5 String for Real ?
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After some Googling and flipping pages I failed to find someone offering music specifically for the 5 string violin.   Is there any legitimate 5 string tradition?  (I'm excluding the 3 chord electric rock groups.)

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Yes the 5 strings violin does exist...

 

I'm living in Norway now, and some of my teachers here had 5 strings violin ( they play baroque music, also Bach so this is traditional 5 strings violin ). This type of violin is really expensive T_T

 

Also there's an other 5 strings violin here 

http://www.acousticelectricstr.....rings.html

Sound pretty good, but this 1 got pick up. 

They have 3 types, different price

 

  • DuShane5 – $1299 — a beautifully antiqued violin to match its exquisite tone. The perfect teacher's tool because of its range and versatility...
  • Dahlia5 – $1399 — offering a warm tone on the low end and standard string spacing for familiar feel and intonation...
  • London5 – $1799 — the crème de la crème of 5-strings from Acoustic Electric Strings...

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Are you reporting that Bach composed for (some) 5 string instrument(s) ?

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No that's not what I mean. I mean my teachers here play baroque also, and they like to do Bach in all the key :D..... so they have 5 strings instrument to play baroque, and yes.. Bach also 😀

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But why is the 5 string important for that music ?  Could it not be played on a violin ?

I'm asking what would I gain if I bought a 5 string ??   Violin/viola in one package ?

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Maybe to get an open C note ?  dunno

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Gee whiz surprised

I'm beginning to get suspicious about this whole 5 string caper.

Time for some serious Utubing

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Baroque violins did not have 5 strings. Adding 5 strings (or more on electric) is a modern thing. I could be completely wrong of course, but nowhere could I find the image of a baroque violin with 5 strings and baroque music was surely not written for 5 strings. Now nothing keeps anyone from experimenting with modern stuff or modifying the music sheets. Its all about fun after all!

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After some lite surfing I have decided not to buy a 5 string.

Besides, my first teacher got one and went ballistic about string crossings.

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Just adding something for future discussion. The viola pomposa.

http://www.badiarovviolins.com.....mposa.html

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Nice find SaraO cheerleaderor did you know it all along  ? 

In any case, good stuff thumbs-up

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I may have learned (and then forgotten) the info years ago. Fortunately, Google was there to bail me out.

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There is your 5th string! One the the article link leads to this:

As the violoncello was being perfected little by little and the artists improving there day by day, the viola pomposa was all the more easily forgotten since it was heavy, and thus, inconvenient to manipulate.

It was suspended from the right shoulder with a ribbon, which gave the instrument its name.

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"inconvenient to manipulate" is up in my closet.  It is called a "16 inch viola" and I can not imagine anyone playing it for any length of time.

But at least there may be a trail to "pomposa" for published works.  I believe that "pomposa" would tune like a modern 5 string ( except maybe for clef )?

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It was tuned like a violoncello according to the in depht article.

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At least there is one relevant utube

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At last I see some real 5 string music dancing  G clef ?

 

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Well after hearing the pomposa I can say I dislike the sound hehe. Or maybe it's the chaconne who doesn't give it credit I dunno.

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Violin players do not typically like violas or their derivatives.  However this is allowed on FM including childish jokes .............  rofl

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V.....la_pomposa

Come to think of it, I bet most potential customers for 5 strings are violin owners lusting over a "C" string   tongue

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Violin pomposa (a pompous Violin! ) How apt!
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