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love this..what it means to be folk
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Yeah, I usually figure if anyone is excluded from folk music, it is because they decided to be.  Folks are just people.  If we aren't playing music for and by people, then what are we doing? 

Folk music is always in my current repertoire, no matter what other genres I may be playing in at a given time. 

 

"This young wine may have a lot of tannins now, but in 5 or 10 years it is going to be spectacular, despite the fact that right now it tastes like crude oil. You know this is how it is supposed to taste at this stage of development." ~ Itzhak Perlman

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Hmm, not a fan of this quote. An assumption is made in order to "own" the music in an attempt to achieve agency in one's life. Yet the author of the quote was not lower class. dunno

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I agree with Barry, this is where the Irish folk music came from, was the peasants.  Interesting timing on this post; I spent quite a few hours on the w/e reading about the potato famine, as my great grandfather exited northern Ireland around that time.  I looked up the author of this quote, died in 1866, so was collecting Irish tunes before they, like the peasants, were gone.

I don't quite understand what 'achieve agency in one's life' means. Was that for the author?

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@Barry 

Yes, Armagh.  Not sure how far away that is from Limerick, I'd have to check the map.  Armagh is not too far from Belfast. 

Well in my case it's Irish-Canadian.  although lots of the Falloons settled in the states as well.  We're not too sure if the name was changed from O'Fallon to sound french, as they settled in Quebec to begin with.

Was interesting to read about how the Irish became the cops and firefighters in NY, here I always wondered why on all the TV shows, the cops were all Irish.  ie  Blue Bloods.

 

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Oh, I completely agree with you Barry! And I'm Irish as well, so why the hell I don't like this quote is beyond me lmao. It's the sociologist in me I suppose. I agree that the Irish (we) definitely do own the music. I just find it funny because the reason that we needed to own it is exactly what you are saying, we needed agency. We had nothing else in our lives since we were oppressed and looked down upon. Thus, we had to turn to music. I'm saying what you are saying, I guess I'm just saying that I'm not proud that my ancestors had to turn to music because that's all they had in their lives. But perhaps without the oppression we wouldn't have such amazing music, music that happens to be my favorite on the fiddle. 

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