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There is a picture of a small mic attached.  I found the mic among some junk in the garage.

It records the violin into Audacity with the most volume ever.  I turned the mic volume down to about 60% of usual and I did not even have to go thru my pre-amp.  The recorded quality is very good.

I have no idea what kind of mic this can be ?  Nothing so far in my Google searches.  There is no hidden battery compartment.  The 25 cents in the photo is only for size comparison.

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Cyber-Acoustics lapel mic.

model CVL-1124R-US

You can get them on Amazon used for under 5$.

Ah, a chance to get in a little payback for your help with that chinrest.  LOL

"This young wine may have a lot of tannins now, but in 5 or 10 years it is going to be spectacular, despite the fact that right now it tastes like crude oil. You know this is how it is supposed to taste at this stage of development." ~ Itzhak Perlman

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I am duly impressed !

For your reward I will dedicate my next SHOW-AND-TELL progress video exclusively to you !  (WOW)

I never would have found that mic duncecap

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Chin Rest, etc.

(You can always count on my advise.  I have made every mistake at least twice and who would know more ?)

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First I thought it was a micro computer mouse and went awww cute embarassed then I realized you were talking about mic. I'm so dumb sometimes!

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I recognized the logo.  Easy once you know who made it.

 

Always best to learn by either making some mistakes or from those who have.  People who are afraid of making mistakes don't learn much.  LOL

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Well, I am also a little flabbergasted with what I just saw on Amazon for this mic.

I think I saw $4.95 or very worse $20 for this microphone and it is clearly performing as well or better than my condenser mic or another one I think is called an "amplified" mic .........the kind that uses a battery.

Gotta think about this facepalm

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Can u use it with headphones?

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Just roll with it, Oliver.

Sometimes you find a piece of gear that just loves your instrument, room or voice.  It might not actually even sound good with anyone else's setup.  It is just one of those odd quirks of gear, may as well be magic.

All you can do is smile and add it to your list of good days.  Oh, might want to pick up a couple spares while they're still cheap/available.  Backups are always good.

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That's a good idea.

My set up here may be a little unusual being an old XP tower.  Pretty much stock.

And I had the HD scrubbed a few years ago and it has never since seen the internet.

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DanielB said
I recognized the logo.  Easy once you know who made it.

 

Always best to learn by either making some mistakes or from those who have.  People who are afraid of making mistakes don't learn much.  LOL

Good quote,, My phylosophy is " Show me a man who never make's mistake's and I'll show you a man who's not doing ANYTHING"   

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To keep it interesting I even invent new mistakes smile

I'm not against violin music teachers but I have generally "seen the light" sooner or later by myself.  Not as quickly and perhaps not as correctly but I do remember my lessons well ( and they even  work .... most of the time smile

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I use an old XP machine that never sees the net as well, Oliver, but for my digital studio.  For analog recording and etc, I use a bigger newer computer that I built from parts and have in "the music corner" of my kitchen. 

My digital studio is just for the midi and sequencers and etc.  My XP machine there is an old IBM that isn't quite stock though.  It was given to me because it was "junk" somebody was going to throw out.  But after putting in maximum ram chips, making sure it had a good air channel and putting in a quieter and bigger fan, it runs like a champ.  I also put in a modified SoundBlaster card, since it sounded better than the one on the motherboard. 

But the real reason I still keep an XP machine as a separate studio for digital (and mixdown, mastering and post-production) is Cakewalk, Audition, and FruityLoops, as well as a few others.  I paid for that software and it works good, dagnabbit.  It just irked me to lose it and have to buy new software just because it wouldn't run on Vista or whatever.  I also had gotten real sick of removing viruses, so that machine doesn't touch the internet.  I even pulled the modem and ethernet cards out of it.

Like I said, though.. not *quite* stock anymore.  LOL

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Neat !!!!!!!!

I have 4 or 5 of the old midi programs like NoteWorthy composer which is plenty adequate for me.

What I have been after FOREVER is a program to tune MIDI files but in cents, not in half steps ?

I know BIAB can do that but it's a pain to work with. 

A couple of DJ programs do that but with microscopic screen readout fonts.

Maybe I could do MIDI to MP3 and find a tuner for that ?

In any case, you seem to be under control and I better check out the tower fan !

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Wow you guys sure are well prepared! I just... use my webcam lol nothing mixed just shoot and upload, I never thought about making the sound better! Are those program hard to understand?

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Your question can only be answered IF you supply some information:

 

What is your current set up ?  Midi players, QuickTime, etc.  What plays your music now ?

What would you like to accomplish in the future?  Better sound?  For videos? 

other ?

Most basic music programs are not too hard to use.  Just a few buzz words to learn.  However, there are some VERY sophisticated programs out there too.

So it come downs to that eternal feminine crisis of decision !

Also, your heart's desire may not lie in software, but hardware !

Off to second position now but back later.

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Oliver: I never much got into adjusting by cents.  I usually just compose in something convenient, then use the midi file to drive samples and adjust the tuning on the samples to whatever I need.  Crude, but it gets the job done well enough for me.  LOL

But even the Audacity can adjust in fractions of 1/100th of a semitone or 1/1000th of cycle per second with just the default version.  So it is certainly possible to at least do it in some way after rendering to wav or mp3 or whatever.

 

NV: Well, some of the software can take a bit to learn.  But I wouldn't say more than you had to learn to use a computer to be online and getting around, really.

I learned it the easy way.  I took classes in college for both analog and digital studio.  That is another reason I have two little studios instead of one bigger one.  I got used to thinking and working that way.

But just to make things sound better, like the recordings you do for here?  Yes.  Certainly you can.  For example, you could use software (I don't know your computer, so I can't just say which software offhand) to split the audio off the video, and then take it into some other piece of software so you could adjust the eq, add a little bit of reverb to give it a feeling of a room with better acoustics, or whatever else you wanted.  When you have it so you like it better, then you can combine it back with the video. 

Or you might record yourself playing one part of a duet, and then record the other part while listening to the first part that you recorded.  Or even a quartet, if that was what you wanted.

The actual video, I do not know much about editing.  But there is also software for that, it would just take learning it if you decided that was something you wanted to be able to do.

There are lots of things you can do these days.  Almost any computer that people use to be online these days can do things that would have needed a recording studio years ago.  It takes some software and then taking some time to learn to use it.  Sometimes it takes a bit of hardware, but nowhere near what it would have back 20 years or more ago.

In many ways, it is a wonderful time to be a musician.

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What the man sed !

 

(I have not yet tried to tune Audacity.  Looked scarey for some reason.  Gotta try it.)

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Oliver, format = mp3 I think. I have a creative Lab soundblaster audio card.

Daniel, Duet is what I would like and taking out the background noise (darn computer fan). I don't want to change the sound I play otherwise people won't be able to give me advice on how to improve haha.

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Good news, NV.  That is fairly easy.

Audacity is free and you can do both noise removal and multitrack recording 9which is how you can play a duet with yourself) on it.

There are versions for Windows, Mac and Linux, so it will run on most machines, and you can get it here:  http://audacity.sourceforge.net/

Probably the first thing to do with it is to learn just to do a simple recording.  If your computer has a microphone, and depending on how your computer's system is set up, that might be as simple as just hitting the record button and playing your violin or talking to test it.  Hopefully, it will work easy.  Otherwise you may need to change a setting ot two to get it to work right on your computer.

Noise removal on Audacity is pretty easy.  I can talk you through how to do that, but perhaps it will be best to start a new topic somewhere on the forum to talk about how to record on the computer.

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Thanks Daniel I will check that program!

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