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"Pimp My... Violin?"
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KewKewKatchew
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Hey guys! I'm a violinist in the making and very excited about it. But I -I know this sounds odd- want to pimp my violin. I want something cute to add a creative touch to my violin. Colorful bow? Rainbow strings? Chin rests? Shoulder rests? Anything! Of course I don't want anything that might harm or ruin my violin, but I want something unique, something "out there". I appreciate the natural look of the violin, but I like things to be a little different. I saw a chin rest that was a mouse, but it was for a smaller violin. I think that is very cute, haha. Any ideas? Anyone else interested in pimping out their violin? Smile <- I love those little emoticons. lol

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The cutest gadget I ever saw was a small mute/mouse face and I think Shar sells them.  I might get a few on my next Shar order.

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Oliver said:

The cutest gadget I ever saw was a small mute/mouse face and I think Shar sells them.  I might get a few on my next Shar order.

Shar? I googled it, but I want to make sure. Is this what you're talking about? If so, it is SO cute. I want to get one, but I'm not even sure I need it. Yell

http://www.sharmusic.com/Shop-.....o-Mute.axd

What exactly is a mute? Does it literally mute the violin? Confused Sorry for all the questions! Newbie here, lol.

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This mouse should make your violin just a little quieter which might only be a problem if you play next to a french horn.  It may also make your violin sound just a little bit better.

It is one of the weakest of mutes and is NOT classified as a practice mute where you don't want your neighbor to hear you.

The best part is that it is designed to stay with your violin and you can lift it up and it will slide back out of the way, but still on the string, if you don't want to use it.  It stays with the violin. 

It is basically similar to a tourte mute which many people carry around and sometimes use as part the regular music in big orchestras.

 

 

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Definitely too cute for me. LOL

Some violins are made with cool scrolls. Also you can use a hankie which is any color you desire over the chin-rest and maybe around the shoulder pad as well. 

Lion violin scroll

 

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Oliver,

Thanks for clearing that up. I will be getting one for myself. Too cute!

 

Fiddlerman,

That scroll is AWESOME. I can totally picture a scroll with Darth Vader's head on it, lol. Definitely will try out the handkerchief idea. So simple, but creative. I like that.:-)

 

 

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If you do Darth Vader you have to post a picture.LaughLaughLaugh

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KewKew I think you may have an idea that you should investigate further. It should be no problem for a manufacturer to anodize the metal on the outside of the strings. I do not see why anodizing color into the strings would effect the sound quality. Maybe you should look up karate glove in your search engine that should get you to the patent site. Look into it some may think it is frivolous and silly but people thought re-inventing the vacuum was nuts but it made a millionaire out of that dyson guy. Besides what do you really have to lose?

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Ok. Now for my question. This topic has got my brain going at light speed. I see on my fiddle what appears to be either shellac or a clear coat of paint. Seeing as it has a coat of "something" covering it does anyone know if it would be possible to maybe get a custom paint job on my fiddle? I was pondering the crazy idea of possibly taking my fiddle to a Luthier someday to have HIM carefully remove that coating, then taking the bare wood body to an artists to have (in my case) either a conferate flag or a celtic dragon airbrushed and sealed onto it. Then back to the Luthier for re assembly stringing and possibly tuning. Does anyone know if this would be possible or am I dreaming?

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A luthier might try to talk you out of making such modification.  Original finishes are somehow sacred to a luthier with possible consequences for sound quality if tampered with.  And I think the idea of a paint would be taboo.

However, I'm not a luthier but I will bet you are talking about a $200-400 job.

The coolest violins I ever saw was at a fiddle convention where some people had large decals on their fiddles.

There are a lot of colored violins around, most on EBay so it's hard to pass a judgement.

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@ Bob - As long as it is not a special violin with a great sound I can't see why not. Just be prepared that the sound might be dampened afterwards.

I for one would love to see a violin like that. You might not need to go to the Luthier either unless you need help restringing afterwards.

 

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It was actually the colored violins that gave me the idea. I figured that if they could make violins and the complex and innovating designs that maybe.... just MAYBE it would be possible to basically create my own original design. If it is as expensive as you guess that means i need to budget it in to my monthly bills. But I think it can be done. But seeing as I have owned a fiddle for such a short time I was wondering what the more experienced players think about the idea. Other than the possible sacredness of the original finish do you think its possible?

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How would you suggest I possibly get the original finish removed without doing any damage to the violin?

As for if its special.. wel does it get anymore special than you very first violin? As far as the sound??? well lets say that I now know I was WAY overcharged for my starter and there are quite a few with a richer more soulfull sound to them. Do not get me wrong I will allways hold this one in a VERY special place in my heart. I really feel this will work but I will be doing alot more research on it before i ever attemt it.

 I actually found a site that would help me create my own violin as in build it myself I think after i get to know some songs and can make music on mine I may attempt it in the future. Just imagine a multi-green hued violin with some scales air brushed in with the proper shading and a dragon head scroll at the end????

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I think that rubbing alcohol will remove varnish but I am not sure. I know that my luthier did it on my fiddle after I had played an outdoor concert and the varnish cracked to revarnish. I'll have to give him a call sometime and ask. He is also a great friend.

I am definitely psyched to see your future fiddle 🙂

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Rubbing alcohol will remove varnish.  I'm sure : )  I do not know if the residue might interfere with later paint (?).

I think you talked about a violin kit.  There is a member on this forum who is working on such a kit but I forget who.

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Thanks for the support I need to get in touch with some artists to see what they think of the surface and if they can do it I know only a couple in my area that do airbrush work for tourists on T shirts and for Henna tattoo's. But I guess it would be most benificial to possibly get in touch with a Luthier as well to get their view point. I live between Panama City and Tallahasee Fl. in a town with one street light. So actually finding a Luthier may prove challenging.

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What is the dollar value of your violin ?

Does it sound great ?

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I was charged 147 dollars for my violin. I was told it was the standard learners model and having no better idea i saved for about 3 months to get it. I have seen on various web sites now that sel violins I could have purchased the silent electric violin of that amount. The sound quality is ( in my neophite opinion) in the mid range of good. Some of the open strings (which is as far as I have progressed thus far) have a good lasting tone while the 1st and 3rd string to me sound subdued, like they are struggling to get that rich carring note the 2nd and 4th string have. This was not only my bowing that created these notes but also the very talented and extremly nice woman who sold the violin and, if I had the time through the week, is very willing to teach me for 20 dollars a half hour. From what I have seen thats a great rate to learn and I bear her absolutly NO ill will. I will allways be thankfull for her having and selling me my violin. She runs a small buisness in a very small town. If I helped her stay in buisness then I should be happy to have helped her. I guess I just had a little sticker shock when I saw I could have bought a violin for 90 dollars brand new. Had I known that I would have bought one years ago. I was using the false idea that it was one of the most expensive instruments to get so I put off getting one and learning for a very long time.

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I was mostly worried that you had a special violin and were thinking of painting it.

Since the Chinese started making violins, pricing has been crazy.  What happens is that one batch of violins might wind up with exotic labeling and credentials and pretty ads so almost no one really knows what the final violin is worth.  The Chinese make 70% of student violins.  A violin with case and bow goes for under $20 at a trade show in China. (maybe less for distributors)? 

Do all your homework if you ever intend to spend a lot of money.

 

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Bob, your violin sounds so epic. If you do this, you NEED to post pictures. And let us know if/how the sound quality is after the paint job. I'm stoked... seriously. A dragon violin? ahhh! 😀

 

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