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Ferret
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January 11, 2013 - 3:14 am
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Hi All

The next time someone asks you, "why is the violin so difficult to play." send then to this link.
http://plus.maths.org/content/.....-hard-play

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That is such a great article as it explains quite a few "phenomenon" that beginners encounter. I've read it over and over several times already and still am amazed.

Thank you for posting.

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nice article, thanks. I thought it was that simple. lol.

"Please play some wrong notes, so that we know that you are human" - said to Jascha Heifetz.

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An interesting article indeed. Thank you for posting this John!

 

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John, thanks for helping me become even more enthusiastic about being a violin pupil.

I was so energized by your posting here on Fiddlerman.com that I researched some of what your article mentions.  I've included a youtube video below for illustration.

No wonder the "stick" part of the violin bow is such an important part of the bow, because to my untrained eye, it appears that amongst the shape and appearance of the string movement, there is, by extension, very tiny pressure changes on the violin hair as the string slides past the follicles. There's probably more upward pressure on the bow during the "slide" which is absorbed into the hair and transferred into the stick.  Without a good stick that is properly shaped, my guess is that the pressures on the bow hair would not be optimal for fine playing.  I guess it's true that I could go get a branch from the tree in the yard and make my own bow, but a finely tuned bow will have the correct shape, and stay that way, to take into account the pressure differences between the sticking and sliding of the string.  Has anyone used the fiddlerman carbon fiber bow, it looks like it would be essential and I plan to get one.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?f.....O5bq6x_Tws

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Well, if somebody asks you a question like that, just smile and hand them your violin/fiddle and see if they can do any better..

 

And if they do play any better than you do, kill them quick and hide the body so nobody knows.

 

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KindaScratchy
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Fascinating article, Ferret! Most of the math stuff is over my head but it seems to confirm things I think I've been figuring out slowly from trial and error.

At the very least, it confirms that learning the violin is hard. Phew! Thought it was just me!

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DanielB said
Well, if somebody asks you a question like that, just smile and hand them your violin/fiddle and see if they can do any better..

 

And if they do play any better than you do, kill them quick and hide the body so nobody knows.

 

devil-violin

Right..... You have to hide them?..... Darnlumpy-2134

 

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Well, if somebody asks you a question like that, just smile and hand them your violin/fiddle and see if they can do any better..

 

And if they do play any better than you do, kill them quick and hide the body so nobody knows.

 

devil-violin

 

that is funny Daniel!!!  ha ha

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