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Oliver
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I am reminded that there are a number of technical experts on this forum and I have a pre-Xmas inquiry.

I am told that I am wasting time without a keyboard amp for my electric (piezo bridge). 

I have a 16 watt Sienna with 4 knob equalizer plus reverb and also a ZOOM G1N effects box.  I can get some good sounds out of all this but never much of an acoustic sound …… which is no big deal either.

Anyhow, should I expect miracles from a keyboard amp?  Size?  Weight?  Plugs? Cost? 

10 watts would handle anything I do (large church hall).   Truth is, I would prefer a battery operated option and I would like to NOT take the ZOOM to "gigs".  (I've been using the acoustic to this point but I have yet to deal with the new organist who thinks we are in Notre Dame sometimes ! )

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I can offer this advice. If your church has a PA, and someone other than the organist is in charge of it, there is a line-out on that Zoom pedal for a reason. Use it, and if you can get a good monitor mix, you could be set nicely.

A keyboard amplifier typically reproduces a broader frequency range, extending from bass to treble much like a piano, which could easily be overkill for your average violin, but would certainly give you the capacity for a warmer tone at higher volumes, without the speaker "breaking up" or sounding fuzzy. And the more competitive it gets for volumes (soloing over an organist and other musicians plus a choir for instance). 

I'd recommend somewhere around a 25-50 watt amp, actually. It gives you much more headroom, and would allow for better, more even voicing of your violin. And they typically don't cost much more than a 10 watt amp.

Hope that helps. I'm sure others with much more experience than I will have plenty to add. wink

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I hear ya and the remark about "fuzzy".  I know that sound.

Also, I'm pretty sure that the organ has its own audio.

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I highly recommend a Marshall AS50D acoustic amp.I love mine.

 

http://marshallamps.com/produc.....Code=AS50D

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That sure looks like the right amp/specs and I really like seeing the word "acoustic".
I looked at the PDF manuals also.
Price seems reasonable.

The manual gives a few sentences about feed-back and I also saw "Anti-feed-back notch filter" in the specs.  Is it realistic to expect to run a mic pick-up with little trouble with this amp or is it a big deal to set up ?

I will scout a little.  The only thing is that I sure do not need 50 watts.

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You'll fall in love with it Oliver. It sounds good at low volumes as well it can get loud and stay clean sounding. It's not too heavy to carry either. You can use it as a small PA as well. It's got everything that you would ever need. I use mine for solo acoustic gigs including vocals and practice. I was blown away when I played violin through it, sounds beautiful. I have a garage and rehearsal space with many amps and PAs but love this little thing. Goes with me everywhere.

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Wow, that sounds good.  And I like your mention of moving it around.  My present amp is way too heavy.  I was thinking of putting wheels on it !

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Here's a pretty good Youtube review of the Marshall AS50D:

http://www.youtube.com/v/NIqmxgVSSDY

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Now that is some clever engineering.  The "Balance" feature is cool.  My present  mic input shares the exact same equalizer settings as the "guitar" input which seems like a poor choice to me. (and a wasted channel).  And the additional details on the feed back control must be pretty good for them to talk it up like that. Of course, most important would be the sound.

I think ZOOM has an audio effects box.  Did you every hear of it ?

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I have every effects box under the sun...

The amp doesn't have an EQ. It does have separate volume, bass and treble controls for each channel so no your mic and guitar or violin whatever are not sharing the same settings. You may be referring to the built in chorus and reverb? You can have those set to either channel or both. If you need an EQ you can always pick up a little multi channel mixer for $50 or so.

I'm just saying it's the best acoustic portable amp that I have heard...done

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OK.  Good news all around.  I have to think of what I might want to do.  Maybe I could sell the Sienna.  Maybe include the ZOOM to sweeten the package.

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