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eoj02
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Ok, i stopped by the violin store to ask someone face to face about CF bows compared to Penumbuco. 

The first thing was aparently to hand me a thousand dollar bow.  Hmmm.  I didn't even touch it.  Then he had me hold the bow and tap it against my hand to feel the vibration.  Not one time did he ask if i wanted to try it.  He went on  telling me a lot of other usefull information.

On my way out I made sure to mention that i might have bought a bow if he'd suggested I try a couple.  He then suggested I try them on this $5000 violin.  Even though i wanted to play it, I reassured him that I would be back when I got my new bow from somewhere else so I could let him know if he was correct.

 

GGGRRRRRR

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That experience sucks... too bad..how pushy.... silly they could be developing a lifetime customer and they toss the chance by being pushy.... I feel for ya.

I am timid when those things happen to me.

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Poor service there.  I can understand being a bit leary about letting $1000 fall into the hands of a beginner or a complete idiot, but to assume you are one?  That is just being a jerk.  I know, personaly, I would not be hurt by this.  I would not trust me with a $500 bow, I would drool on it and ruin the hair, facepalm, but if he talks to me and figures out that I may know a little about this sorta thing and THEN treats me respectable, I can understand that.  I wouldn't hand just anyone a $1000 bow, but I would get to know the customer before I assumed anything. 

I would be frustrated too!red_cursing

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Well, there's more than one way to look at it.  And bear in mind that we can't hear his tone or see his manner when you were there, of course.

I can see where he might well hand you a 1k$ bow if you ask about pernambuco and CF.  A salesperson will blow more sales by underestimating the customer than by overestimating. 

He may not have invited you to actually try it on an instrument because it probably wasn't rosined.  At least at my local shop, most of the bows aren't, since they don't want to try and guess what sort of rosin someone might like, and it wouldn't be real easy to clean it back off once it is put on. 

But I rather doubt my local shop even has a $1000 bow on the premises.  LOL  If they did and the owner handed it to me, I'd look it over politely and hand it back and say something like "A bit too rich for my blood, what do you have around $100 or so?"  Same for the $5000 violin. 

Sometimes they do that (and really are inviting you to try it) to make sure you know they do carry items of that quality just in case you might be in the market for very very nice stuff.  Or may be in the future.  It is salesmanship to show a potential customer the most expensive items they might possibly be interested in first rather than showing them the low ticket items. 

Honestly, I would be more likely to be insulted if I asked about a 500$ or so violin and they pushed me towards a 50$ one instead. LOL  Now that could lose them a sale.

At the shop I usually go to, I've known the owner for years, and over the years he has had me try some rather expensive instruments.  Sometime he wants an opinion on them.  Sometimes there's some particular point of quality he wants to see if I'll notice.  Sometimes it seems to be just for the heck of it, because hey.. It's a music store and I may not be in the market today, but I might be next week.  Not like I haven't bought more than a few things there over the years.   

I have a bit of a hard time understanding what was disrespectful about handing you a $1000 bow and then when you mentioned trying bows out, offered you a $5000 dollar violin to try them on.  I'd usually consider that quite a bit of respect.  But like I said, I wasn't there and didn't hear tone of voice or see facial expression. 

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DanielB said
Honestly, I would be more likely to be insulted if I asked about a 500$ or so violin and they pushed me towards a 50$ one instead. LOL  Now that could lose them a sale.

I agree.

Honestly, the conversation wasn't that bad, he was doing his best to explain everything he could.  He wasn't actually a violin player so it was a little interresting.  I was just a little irritated about the whole thing.  Probably unjustified...  I guess I just wanted to vent.

Anyway, he did mention that he had $12,000 handmade violins from his luthier.  Wow..

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eoj02, While I have your attention, let me show you a beautiful violin called the HC3200 and Fine master copy of the famous “Hellier” decorated Stradivari violin.

ONLY $3690.00

Mind you, you will be saving $1500 dollars if you buy this violin because of the sale price. So in essence I would be giving YOU $1500 and you would be steeling this instrument off my hands for a measly 3,000 plus bucks.

crossedfingersthumbs-updevil-violin and you cansleepon it if you are hesitant.

 

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again, wow....  I keep seeing this quote...  "The richest person is not the one who has the most, but the one who needs the least."  Good advice.  especially when my ability is more in the $50 violin range. 

 

I'm sure a bow and strings are all I need currently. 

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