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When does a cheap bow become an expensive bow?
Confused about the current poll question.
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Uzi
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The current poll question about bows asks if we are using a cheap carbon fiber or an expensive carbon fiber, a cheap pernambuco or an expensive pernambuco. What's the price break between cheap and expensive?

Cabon Fiber < $300 cheap?
Pernambuco < $1,000 cheap?

Is that about right?

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"When does a cheap bow become an expensive bow?"

when you beat the heck out of someone with it and get an assault charge..just sayin'

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I'm sure you can get pernambuco much less (cheap) than $1000. Not considering materials, I would call ANYTHING less than $300 "cheap".

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Cheap is when even *you* can't deny it was a waste of your money..

Expensive is gear you'd like but can't afford, at least not right now.

Between those two is Reasonable, which is the range where it works well for you and it was in your budget. Almost any musician, regardless of what they paid for a piece of gear, considers the price to have been Reasonable if the gear works out for them and they managed to afford it.

There is another category above and beyond Expensive, called Ridiculous. That is where something costs so much that you wouldn't pay that for it, even if you hit the lottery.

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A cheap bow become's expensive, when it is no longer mass produced and it is made by hand from a renowned bow maker.

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Fiddlerman
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April 25, 2014 - 6:28 pm
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Funny thread.
True fact. We have a good Pernambuco bow that we sell at fiddlershop which we call "Cheap Pernambuco Bow".
After renaming it this way we made far more sales than before. People search for cheap this and cheap that.... when they find this bow they figure they have nothing to loose. It seems that almost everyone is super happy with this bow since we receive extremely few returns. Who would have thought that cheap would be a selling point????

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I'll add my definition to the above:
Not having access to any music shops apart from online, I've bought my whole kit that way; all of it, including replacement strings and bows, after much research.
When a cheap purchase becomes expensive is when I receive it and realise that it was a total waste of money, and the postage to return it is a waste as well. By the time I research something else and buy it, I could've spent more money in the first place than I'd planned to.
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Fiddlerman
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April 26, 2014 - 6:54 am
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Great definition Robyn :)

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April 26, 2014 - 6:12 pm
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I know of one company that sells a bow for $28,000. My new car cost less than that. I'd put that in the ridiculous category.

Similar to Robyn's answer: I think a cheap bow becomes a "more expensive than it should be" bow when you have it rehaired and the rehairing costs more than the original price of the bow.

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I pull out my fiddle and I rosin up the bow.

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Great minds ............... I have never rehaired a bow where the rehair was more expensive.
Fact is that I never had a bow rehaired.
(One luthier said my bows were in the "disposable" class) (Was that an insult?)

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That might have been intended as an insult Oliver. But what do they know. ;-)

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I think I should be planning on a genuine FM CF bow in the near future!

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I can understand all of your comments, but I submit that there is a place for cheap. Be it violin or bow, I would never do to an expensive piece, what I do to the cheap ones I own. I am in a learning phase and am doing that which for me is necessary to learn everything I need to know about playing a violin. After I know how to treat a violin or bow, then I can upgrade without fear.
If though, I bought expensive first, how would I learn? Because someday the post will fall or the bridge will crack or the hair will turn into a mass of bumps of rosin, the tailpiece will strip its retainer and all the pegs will fail to hold tension,,,and and,,and my teeth will fall out and my hair will turn green, too. I decided to do all my learning now, here, not when I'm playing the wedding march with the bride's mother staring at me.

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