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Rayh911
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I was wondering if fiddlerman or anyone else could possibly comment on the type of vibrato used in country back up playing....its not really a wrist or arm vibrato...and its very subtle but sounds very nice !  Its kinda hard to explain....its clearly vibrato...but it doesnt have a "classical" sound to it at all.  heres some youtube links...see if you can comment !  Im tryin to figure out how to do it

 

check out from like 1:08 to 1:18...you can see his hand is just slightly vibrating

 

here is a GREAT and clear example of what Im talkin about

 

anyways....Ive been asking, and experimenting, and trying to find out how to find that authentic "nashville" sound !  usually you always see on forums and tutorials info on classical, old time, bluegrass, celtic, etc etc.....but country / nashville you dont see much about !! im lookin forward to see what you guys come up with haha 🙂  violin-student

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Kevin M.
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Check out this fiddlerman video I think this is what you are looking for

/tutorials/advanced-tutorials/finger-and-hand-vibrato/

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Would you (or anyone) believe that the limited use of vibrato for fiddlers and bow techniques dates back to the Baroque violin?  Says so here:

 

http://www.nashvillescene.com/.....id=1500520

About paragraph six.

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thats interesting !  and yes that video kinda was I was talking about....I dunno maybe the country vibrato is just "wider"?? not as rapid

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Fiddlerman
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The first example is clear arm vibrato. Just kind of slow that's all

On the second video those guys are using more hand, wrist vibrato. Not that wide and fast.

It's great to analyze what these guys are doing to imitate the sound that you need or want to get for your playing.

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I've got Scots-Irish genes, Tennessee bread, born in Memphis (a little Mississippi Delta/Nashvegas) been here in Nashville since 1979, classically trained, and honestly, it is a personal thing. My vibrato is more like a gypsy violinist, but authenticity is the key, and I agree with Pierre- whatever sounds best to you, depending on what you are playing (: Feel it out (:  

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Vibrato "Feelings"

I once attended a classical concert at a small college where the orchestra consisted of music department students and adults from the local community.  I imagined that this was a graded performance for the music students coming as it was at the end of the semester.  Anyhow, the main selection ended with just about every string part doing a tsunami class vibrato (a real chance to pull up that grade!).  The effect was like a marching banjo band and clearly frightened the audience.  I came away with a phobia never to get that expert at vibrato even if I often admire that technique when tastefully done. 

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QuicheLoraine
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"Tsunami class vibrato"- lol! Domo Aregato Mr. Vibrato! That kind of robotic, hyper vibrato often sounds like simulated "violin" midi sound to me (ik!). It reminds me of those very technical players who do everything technically and mechanically correct, but often lack the feeling in their playing. I think vibrato is best when it is by feeling, not something predicable and with a varying intensity of feeling.

 

One of my friends had a similar discussion about singing and the phenomenon of the "Star Search vocal"- the cheesy R & B kind of extended ending to every phrase that sounds like scales on crack w/ Tsunami vibrato, that couldn't be notated in some normal time signature, and no one could sing along with.              

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To get that country sound on the fiddle there are a couple ways you can practice to get that sound. Instead of starting on the note with your finger and first knuckle bent (as normal) start out on the note with your knuckle already flat and roll up to the note. Do it nice and slow. You will hear that country flair.

Another way to get that country sound you can slightly slide into the note slowly. You'll notice a difference in both techniques.

That's how all the old country blues fiddlers did it.

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I agree with you Scott on the sort of fingering technique and definitely the slides.

 

Vassar Clements (R.I.P.), Buddy Spicher, Sam Bush (on fiddle..he plays...everything), Johnny Gimble (now a Nashvillian) Mark O'Connor, Jason Carter (of the Del McCoury Band), Aubrey Haynie, are some of our best fiddlers. Here's a good video of Aubrey Haynie with Steve Wariner and Ray Charles on the Opry stage- good shots of Aubrey. I'd post the actual video here, but it never works for me.  

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Try just posting the link that is in the actual address bar Quiche.
I can always fix it so that it embeds better later on.

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