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7.5 months of playing
Vivaldi G-minor 3rd movement ("presto")
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Hurton
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Hi again! That is what I can do after 7.5 month. It is not, of course, a satisfactory performance. A lot of mistakes are still there and I work hard to fix them.This is also suppossed to be played faster. Waiting your comments :)

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Hmmmmmm..... Somehow by the little grin on your face kinda tells me that you've been BSn  us here about 7.5 months. Are you sure it's not 7.5 years you've been playing ?

All kidding aside, that was awesome, absolutely awesome.

That's about all I can say.

Can you play Twinkle Twinkle Little Star yet. I'm just pulling your leg. LOL

Fantastic.

 

Ken.

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Fiddlestix said
Hmmmmmm..... Somehow by the little grin on your face kinda tells me that you've been BSn  us here about 7.5 months. Are you sure it's not 7.5 years you've been playing ?

 

Ken.

Wot Ken said. :)

Seen it all. Done it all. Can't remember most of dunno ..... What was I saying???? facepalm

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Thanks, Ken! 

It`s only 7.5 months and not 7.5 years. You can find earlier records of my playing at this forum (it seems to be ten days, 1 months, 3 months and 4 months). So, I`m sure that it is 7.5 months :D

Frankly speaking, I can`t play Twinkle Twinkle)) I simply don`t remember how to play it. But, I did play Twinkle about 6 or more months ago :D

Thanks, Ferret!

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Hi It was very impressive

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Strange bow hold. Can be a pinky problem?

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Hurton,

   So that's what you do at 5 in the morning, hey I should try that, BTW it sound damn good to me.

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Thanks, Peter! :)

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Almost Tone Deaf, thank you! 

Not sure that I`m crazy enough to play at 5am :D in my country it was around midday)

You should try to play it! The piece becomes really not difficult since you`ve played it very slowly 100500 times :D I think that the tempo is the key difficulty there. I suggest that approximately 6 notes per second should sound in original tempo (presto).

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Of course you are doing great for the amount of time you have been playing but what are your goals if I may ask? At 1:20 or so you double the tempo all of a sudden. Tempo changes often throughout your performance. Better to choose a tempo (be it slow or not) and stick to it even when you have an easier time with it.
Even when you play a piece that is advanced technically for your level of experience you should focus on intonation. It's one of the things that most people will notice.
Lot's of teachers would tell you that you are not ready for this piece but I love it when students are overly ambitious. I remember when I was supposed to be playing Kreutzer etudes and played Paganini instead. LOL
Keep up the great and very ambitious work that you are doing. :)

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but the one who needs the least."

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Very nice.

I am admiring your determination to play a difficult piece. Congratulations on that.  I recognized the tune immediately.

I am not qualified to critic ... so what Pierre says.  🙂  

Thanks for sharing and the inspiration.  If I could have played like that at 7.5 months, I'd be over the moon.

Keep it up and keep sharing.  I suspect you will perfect this lovely piece and knock our socks off even further.!!

:)Cheers,

Toni

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Thanks for the feedback, Pierre!

What are my goals? The final purpose is making music. But I still too far away from it. The local purpose is playing in tune in 3rd - 7th positions. I want to be comfortable with the whole firngerboard. And there are some pieces that inspired me to play the violin such as this piece, Schubert`s "Erlkonig", Paganini`s "carnaval de Venise" and others. I really want to play them. 

Tempo problems are those that I can`t exclude even after playing with a metronome 50 times. I want the whole piece to be played in presto or somewhere near presto. The fingers don`t follow my wishes or follow partially. I really did play this piece slowly hundreds of times. Fingers are stilll uncontrolled. Somewhere they can play faster, somewhere they can`t. As a result - poor performance :(

Intonation, I suggest, was really good when I learned it playing extremely slow (60 bmp). When I try to play faster, intonation becomes worse. Moreover, even in other pieces that are easier that this I still can`t play with perfect intonation and can`t exclude mistakes at all. That is another thing that upset me. I really want to play with perfect intonation. Instead, all that I can say about my intonation is that it is a little bit better than a few weeks ago. 

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Thanks, Toni!

As I`ve mentioned earlier it is not a difficult piece since you play it hundreds of times. But also I can add that it is difficult to be played perfectly. So, not sure that I will be perfect with this piece within next few months)

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You are welcome.  You mentioned your intonation was better playing it slow.  That makes sense.  I have listened to a teacher recently suggest breaking up the measures and isolating them...  little bits at a time.  I would imagine that would be tedious on a lovely piece like that one.  But I think  it might help.  

As I said before I have no critique for you as I am not "there" yet.   I just have some of the same issues with my playing on a much more simple level and that is what was suggested for me.   I have been doing this with Swan Lake the first few measures... (Pierre's version)... It would be the only song I have actually learned this way.  Little measures at a time.

Go go go.. make this your own.. You are doing well. 

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oh I like this a lot, can't wait to hear more from you! This is awesome, with a little bit of practise and everything's gonna go fine!

cheers! - ⁰ℨ

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yea seriously, for 7.5 months thats pretty good i think. keep up the good work, a little practice and you can really nail this!

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Thanks for your advice, Toni! That is exactly the way I learn it. It is really helpful. 

Ozmous, thanks! 

HotHands, thank you!

P.S. I`ve spent four hours today to solve intonation issues with this piece. And what I wanna say - it doesn`t seem to be solved at all!!!! Somewhere it has become better and somewhere not. The most difficult places are: 1) descending "wave" from A in 7th position at E string to A in 5th position on G string, 2) the place where... E(b) B(b) G B(b) 3 times, then F C A F 3 times and then G D B G 3 times. 

I think that after a month I will be able to play it really good. And after a few years I will definitely do it perfectly.

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Very hard piece as for me O_o XD Awesome done! I think your intonation is great for the time You play! But as FiddlerMan said - it's the first thing that people notice, it could be cute if You play "Twinkle" with off notes, but if You choose to play this thing - there will be more work. Though i think, You can deal with it - just keep this work up!

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Hurton said
Thanks for your advice, Toni! That is exactly the way I learn it. It is really helpful. 

Ozmous, thanks! 

HotHands, thank you!

P.S. I`ve spent four hours today to solve intonation issues with this piece. And what I wanna say - it doesn`t seem to be solved at all!!!! Somewhere it has become better and somewhere not. The most difficult places are: 1) descending "wave" from A in 7th position at E string to A in 5th position on G string, 2) the place where... E(b) B(b) G B(b) 3 times, then F C A F 3 times and then G D B G 3 times. 

I think that after a month I will be able to play it really good. And after a few years I will definitely do it perfectly.

Don't overdo your practice. You wear yourself out and feel like you are not improving. Pick a passage from the piece and work on playing it fast while focusing on keeping an even temp and getting proper intonation. Work on the passage like that for an hour or so, with short breaks now and then. You'll reach a point where you won;t feel like you are making any progress, Put the violin down at that point and go do something else, or, work on a different piece. then in a day or so come back to that same passage and try it again. Chances are you'll notice an improvement. It may not be a huge improvement but it's still progress.  I have founf that when I focus on a given piece for too long I reach a point of no return where I am not getting any better. That means it's time for me to take a break and come back to it later, or even the next day. It seems to work for me. Give it a try. So far you seem to be doing great.

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