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Cherokee Shuffle
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Jarvo
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July 15, 2016 - 4:18 pm
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Cherokee Shuffle...4 months in and I think I can detect a little progress ...I don't know if the techniques are strictly kosher , I try and keep the bow held lightly and  straight across the strings. I do wander a bit between neck and bridge . My worst failing is when the bow snaps back at me and comes right over the bridge.....And I should slow down ,but it gets awful scratchy when learning......I am in your hands ......

 

https://youtu.be/_-YgIkuDP1s

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@Jarvo Looks like a difficult song but I like your playing a lot!  Keep up the good work!

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I understand the "Whoa!" at the end. That looked like a lot of work! 🙂

Intonation was off in spots, but that will come with practice.

Very good sense of rhythm. You used a variety of bowing patterns, and all to good effect.

You kept all your fingers very close to the strings (probably an absolute necessity to play that fast.)

Your right hand looked pretty loose and flexible.

The one thing I'd suggest is to work on a straight bow, where you do not move your upper arm forward and back. (You'll have to move it forward the last 6-8 inches before you get to the frog, but anywhere else, it shouldn't move.)

It's causing your bowing angle to change a fair amount, and contributes to the bow wandering a bit.  Both hurt your tone.

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I think it's all good. In the first several seconds I thought you sounded just like an acquaintance of mine. Over the course of the 40 years or so that I've known him, he's produced several albums and CDs. He even sold a tune to HBO that they used for the theme song for the series Deadwood. At the end of the last episode they even used his vocals and playing.

If you want to risk ruining everything, you could work on bowing straighter and slower on an easier tune. 

But that was fun as is. 

Thanks.

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July 16, 2016 - 10:33 am
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Great job and sounds like a fun tune to play Jarvo. 🙂

Take the time to tune your violin before performing. You will sound more in tune in general. Actually tuning more regularly will make your violin tuning skills better and better.

Sometimes when your bow wonders close to the bridge you get that ponticello sound. Check you bow angle in the mirror to improve on the consistency of your sound.

Looks like your having fun. Thanks for the post!

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Great job! violinthumbs-up

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Thanks for all the positive and encouraging feedback...I am keeping the upper arm firmly down and it feels odd and looks like a t rex impersonation ...but it don't alf work !!Cheers charles...and everyone else who has chipped in...cheers

 

Now I listen again , I can hear the cringe worthy lack of accuracy . And forgetting to tune is a no-brainer.....still if I had a brain it would be in excellent unused condition so ...onwards and in and outwards...duncecap

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Cherokee Shuffle is a tune I am working on to memorize.  Four months in?  Good job! Great comments, follow them and you will do great.

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Jarvo said
I am keeping the upper arm firmly down and it feels odd and looks like a t rex impersonation ...but it don't alf work

I hope I didn't screw you up by phrasing it poorly. The elbow should still go up and down like it always has, it just shouldn't rotate around the shoulder from back to front (except for the last 6-8 inches when getting to the frog, if you can't get there otherwise - for me, it depends on what angle I hold the violin at).

If you're keeping your elbow down by your side all the time, that would cure the front-to-back stuff, but it will mess up your string crossings. Up and down is good, sideways is not.

If I misinterpreted what you said and none of this applies, in the immortal words of Emily Littela, "Never mind..."   

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Ah ..yes but to learn not to let the upper arm Pivot back and forth I have deliberately kept it  rigidly down . That makes it better for me to get the idea firmly in the old noggin.......and then release it back into the wild and bring it back up again...it's all good Charles . Thanks,Cheers.

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It says "Stentor Conservatoire" I bought it at Omega Music in UK to replace the £35.00

job that I started with.

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