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leftyuk
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September 7, 2015 - 12:09 pm
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hello,

1. Please ignore intonation, it's not usually this bad... I got nervous! 'Onist guv...

I have a problem with certain phrasing, this tune is an example, there are other tunes I try with similar bowing and string changes that give me the same issues and it's driving me mad. I slow down, I can do it, I speed up, it self destructs. 

Is it something I am trying that just needs time?

Is there something I can do that will address and help the issue? 

I would love to play this as a flowing run without hiccoughs, any advice very very gratefully recieved!

and again, apologies for the intonation! 

And the wind takes your hesitation, and the sun burns your fear, and the rain on your face, make the tears disappear..

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Jim Dunleavy
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I think the problem is coordination of left and right hand - there's a lot of string crossing in that run and I think that's what's tripping you up.

The only way is slow practice (with a metronome if you have one) at a speed you can play it perfectly, then each day click the speed up a notch (going back if you have problems then advancing again once you are able). That will certainly work - I know from experience - but it's long and tedious.

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Fiddlerman
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September 7, 2015 - 5:54 pm
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Of course that phrase would work many times better in 3rd position.

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Thanks for the post!

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Carlos Quintero
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Sir you play veary well. ???

Now right off the bat. I AM NOT AN EXPERIENSED PLAYER WHATSOEVER. I AM AS FRESH AS IT GETS!! 

That being said it feels to me like theres alot of hesitation on that part.

Just for kicks try to play that a bit closer to the frog of the bow. 

Amd try practicing  the piece with no fingers. Only stronger than needed bowing.

Hope i helped little.

 

Keep up the amazing work.....

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Is that Cripple Creek?  I have the slower version down and am working on the faster notey version.  That end part sounds like the more notey version.

You will get it - it just takes time!!

You may find this inteesting - Evoution of a fiddle tune: https://www.lorenz.com/med/pages/710304.pdf

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@Schaick it sure sounds like Cripple Creek. I have a version of this song in my book, but it sounds much simpler than what lefty was playing.

@leftyuk you did well, it just takes a little practice, don't give up! 🙂

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@leftyuk,  I have an opinion, but I'm not sure I'd elevate it to the level of advice -- at least not necessarily good advice.  If you watch your video you will see that you are playing all or almost all of the notes with a distinct bow stroke. Slurring some of the notes will allow you to play much faster and more smoothly, with fewer bow strokes and will make the song flow better. I'll leave it to you to figure out which ones to slur, but I'd wager dollars to donuts it would help.

Look at the video posted by @Schaick and you'll see that sometimes there's only one bow stroke for several notes and sometimes one stoke per note. 

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@Uzi  I first learned the notey version of Old Joe Clark bow stroking every note.  By accident I slurred a handful of the notes and it was so much easier.  I have Old Joe Clark down but slurring really helped with the flow of it. 

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As Yogi Berra might have said, "Good fiddle playing is 90% bowing.  The other half is fingering." 

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