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ok, lets have some of that critique; i need all the help i can get.
here is a bit of wayfaring stranger;
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gwscheer
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 I have been playing since April 1,2013, but not hardly at all in June due to two business trips and youngest daughter's wedding and her college graduation...  

 

All excuses aside, lookingfor feedback.  It sounded better when there was no camera running; isn't that how it always works?  

 

 

 

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I liked it. What song is that?

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dionysia:

It is from Wayfaring Stranger, an American folk song/spiritual that was first popularized in the 1940s by Burl Ives but covered by many since.  I am glad you liked it.

gws

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I thought it sounded nice....what do you not like about it? (if anything)

I suspect you are looking for someone to confirm what you already think, nuthin wrong with that if it is the case. I would suggest looking at your bow hold to start and then how you control the bow as a second area. Play it slow over and over and focus on intonation and tone and its fine.
I dunno if you are playing directly from memory or reading from sheet music but what is often missing is that emotional aspect to playing. Using dynamics (louder and softer graduations) is one way to make it more interesting if that is what you are looking for.
I love the electric and its sound, I thought you did a great job and I had never heard of the tune before. I like Burl Ives.

"Please play some wrong notes, so that we know that you are human" - said to Jascha Heifetz.

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Thanks Picklefish;  I really am looking for improvement, not fishing for praise, and I know that I am a novice with a lot to learn. So, I appreciate the bow hold and bow control areas to work on. This is from memory now, not reading it.

Also, I agree that some dynamics would help.  With the guitar I manage to get the emotions into the performance;  with violin I am so focused on all of the mechanics that I haven't even thought about the dynamics . So thanks again for the input. I sincerely welcome all the help I can get.

g

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I sense you play some SWEET guitar cause you seem to be bringing that out on the E_VID > For less than 3 months > You are rocking. Keep it coming!!!!

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Maaaaate, that was great.

I did notice that you aren't a novice when it comes to music. I saw the stuff hanging on the wall behind you.

I've been at for around 14 ish months now. Will you call around to my place to give me a lesson or two beg

 

What? Me critique You. Get outa here.rofl

What was the name of that tune. I know it but can't put a name on it dunno

Seen it all. Done it all. Can't remember most of dunno ..... What was I saying???? facepalm

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thanks stonedog and ferret, I appreciate your kind words.  Here is another one, some improvisation over Hugh Laurie's St James Infirmary. More flaws than the other one I am afraid. ( ratvn might be happier with the video since he can see more of my bow arm than in the other video, and there is only a phase effect instead of analog Mod Dellay)   I apologize in advance for occasional skratchybowing)  g

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@gwscheer ..OH no you did not just play that good?  Yay..thank you.. and then the next one.. I am drinking wine and diggin' that .. awesome for you...

Sorry no critique this time.. (or probably ever as you play better than me..)..

Nice nice nice..

 

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Wow, so nice, gwscheer.

Intonation is so good for such a short time.

I like your electric violin tone a lot.

Not much of critique this time other than I thought the bowing is a bit heavy on shoulder. Maybe next time you can include more of your bowing hand and shoulder?

But that is still a great job for just 2 months.

BTW, welcome from fellow Washingtonian beginner.

thumbs-up

 

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thanks @coolpinkone and @ratvn . Next video I make I'll move where more bow arm visibility will work; where I was there is this post in the way.  Then I'll look forward to some bow technique critique.  

I am glad you like the playing.

@Ferret noticed the instruments on the wall; the dobro and lap steel (on the floor) are played with a slide, so there are no frets to make the intonation work like there are for regular guitars; so in a way I have been doing intonation ear training with those instruments for a long time. So I think that probably helped.

Likewise, jazz comping / improvisation on the guitar helps with knowing the blues scales and how they sound, to use on violin blues improvisation. Plus, @Fiddlerman 's blues improvisation videos were especially helpful. 

thanks everyone for your kind words and advice. g

 

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It's not hard to tell that you have quite a musical background. Great improvisation, and your intonation is remarkably good.  I'm guessing that your Dobro playing transfers to violin playing more than anything. 

Now please tell us how you are processing the music?  Are you doing any pitch correction?  I don't know about the technical aspects of that---I'm asking since your intonation is so good.

The only thing I can think of to mention is that your bow may have tended to go crooked when you start to bow near the frog.  Not sure about that, but getting your wrist involved more would fix it.  You might try making a video looking at the strings broadside to see whether the bow is staying pretty square to the strings.

Really good playing so soon.

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thanks for the comments, @RosinedUp 

>Now please tell us how you are processing the music? Are you doing any pitch correction? I don't know about the technical aspects of that—I'm asking since your intonation is so good.

I am using no pitch correction; I don't know the technical aspects of that either, but have heard of vocalists using something like that.  I would guess the slides/glissandi would get "stairstepped" by that, but don't really know. So, thanks for the intonation compliment

The two devices I used are a Fishman Pro-EQ Platinum equalizer to tone down the harshness of the pickups and a VOX Tonelab LE. This is a muliteffects box with a tube preamp stage in it. For Wayfaring Stranger I had the MODDLY patch in the LE, which is basically just an analog delay (that big-hall echo effect.) For St James Infirmary I dialed back to a PHASE effect that gives it a little bit of a 'rippled" sound instead of a big-space echo.

I have this plugged into a yamaha mixer without any effects on the violin channel,with a USB link to computer, to provide the audio input for the video recording.

>The only thing I can think of to mention is that your bow may have tended to go crooked when you start to bow near the frog... You might try making a video looking at the strings broadside to see whether the bow is staying pretty square to the strings.

That could be, especially in the throes of improvising. Later in the week I'll try to make some video that shows the bow broadside to the stirings and, per ratvn,  the bowing shoulder arm and hand.  Thanks

 

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also must confess that the blues improv is pretty forgiving on initial pitch; if the note is slightly off and you slide it into pitch by ear, it just sounds like you meant to do that in the first place.  Jazz, too.  Hitting the wrong note in jazz comp usually sounds intentionally jazzy. Also, all double stops in St James Infirmary were bowing errors, but sounded ok. Sorry to be revealing the secrets of the trade...  bubble burster gws

 

 

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I really like your effects. Could you share with us what you are using?

To give you something to work on :-) Lift your right arm elbow a bit more as you are playing your up bows towards the frog. Drop it as you play down. Avoid using your shoulder.

Great job on such a short time learning the instrument. "Composer" (a former member of extreme negativity) would have said that it is not possible. LOL

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Thanks for the comments fiddlerman, I'll work on using the elbow and not the shoulder as you (and ratvn) suggested. 

The two devices I used are a Fishman Pro-EQ Platinum equalizer to tone down the harshness of the pickups and a VOX Tonelab LE. This is a multieffectsbox with a tube preamp stage in it.

For Wayfaring Stranger I had the MODDLY patch in the VOX, which is basically just an analog delay (that big-hall echo effect.)  

  For St James Infirmary I dialed back to a PHASE effect that gives it a little bit of a 'rippled" sound instead of a big-space echo,using a "phase sweep". You could do the same thing with a dedicated Phase pedal like the circa 1974 MX Phase 90 or something newer. 

 I'm sure my choice of songs would not be up to Composer's standards, and I'd be accused of being a "trick learner". ..Oh no; he's gone but here we are channelling him!

And even tho' I had a good first few months I've still got years of learning to do; 

thanks

gary

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Only thing i would say is watch your pinky, I learned that the hard way it makes playing alot easier for me when I do that the classical way. That being said bow holds differ from style to style and person to person, if you start playing fast and notice a lack of control then give it a try.

Good luck :)

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ha ha   one of my friends pointed out that all of my videos are mirrored images;  really I am right handed. Strange artifact of making video with photobooth on mac. I did not notice and nobody else mentioned it.  g 

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