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Star of the County Down
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I am not sure everyone can see drop box... I sorry recorded on iPhone memo.  Have been told By several that it is too slow... Looking for tips .

https://www.dropbox.com/s/a5t83aki64nsggt/Memo.m4a

 

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Hey Toni,

That sounded very good. Nothing wrong with "slow". Everyone starts slow--once you master the tune, which you pretty much seem to have done, then you can speed it up little by little. Keep at it, you're doing fine.

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Nice job, Toni.

Keep up the good work.

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Toni that was really lovely!  Keep up the good work!

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Don't worry about speed at first.  Speed is probably the easiest thing to get from just practising a piece. 

Go for playing with a good tone and feel.  Speed will come pretty much automatically over a bit of time.  In fact, you sometimes end up having to slow a piece back down somewhat to make it sound right, after you get it faster. LOL

But with slowness, one way to get the transitions and embellishments better on a piece are to slow it way down and work it that way for a few days.  Then when you let it go back up the the tempo you want it at, your fingers can know just what to do. 

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I'm astounded!  I think it was just lovely!  Well done.  With more speed it may have actually been a little less romantic I think.  I liked it as is.  But then, I can't visualize a song I'm unfamiliar with at a different pace, so my opinion may be moot. 

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Thank you everyone.  It was a fun thing to do with my friend Taryn on the guitar.

Thank you for your kindness and advice.  I means a lot to hear feedback . 

Love Toni

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That sounded very nice, Toni, keep up the good work.  clap

 

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Actually it sounded pretty good. As the soloist you get to set the tempo and, although I normally hear it played at a faster tempo it sounds very good at the slow tempo. In fact at the slow tempo it sets a very different mood and dimension than when its played fast.

 

To learn to play fast you have to, well, ... play fast. Break it up into small sections or work on it a measure at a time and play the measures as fast as you can. Then when you slow it down even a little bit it will seem easier.

 

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Thank you Crazy... 

I will speed it up a bit... I haven't played this since I posted... I need to practice it again.. 

Thank you for the tips!

cheers 

Toni

 

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DanielB said
Don't worry about speed at first.  Speed is probably the easiest thing to get from just practising a piece. 

Go for playing with a good tone and feel.  Speed will come pretty much automatically over a bit of time.  In fact, you sometimes end up having to slow a piece back down somewhat to make it sound right, after you get it faster. LOL

But with slowness, one way to get the transitions and embellishments better on a piece are to slow it way down and work it that way for a few days.  Then when you let it go back up the the tempo you want it at, your fingers can know just what to do. 

What you are saying is absolutely true. One think I picked up playing in the orchestra is that it is often more difficult to play pieces that were meant to be played slow slow. All too often musicians tend to gravitate towards playing too fast and it can ruin the feel that the composer intended. Likewise, playing soft can be difficult. One of the biggest complaints our conductor has is that when a composer calls for a passage of music to be played piano we still tend to play too loud and have to really force ourselves to play softly.

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coolpinkone said
Thank you Crazy... 

I will speed it up a bit... I haven't played this since I posted... I need to practice it again.. 

Thank you for the tips!

cheers 

Toni

 

You are doing fine. It had nice romantic touch to it the way you played it,You are sounding great .  Also the guitar accompanying you added a nice touch.Keep up the good work.  Don't worry too much about playing it fast right away.. Follow Daniel's advice above.   As far as my advice goes, yes, work on the speed a little at a time. As time goes you will pick it up. You will also embellish the ability to read ahead as you play quickly. The faster the tempo you play at the further ahead you have to read so that your fingers are ready to fall into the right place.  I have been playing for several years and I still have difficulty playing all the notes right when I go really fast.

Just as a side note, I have found the Etudes in the "Wolfhart Op 45 Book 1" to be very useful in learning to play fast. You can download it for free here at Fiddlerman's site.  If you do decide to work on the Wolfhart etudes  Todd Euhle has some video instructions where he gives some good pointers and examples of how the etudes should sound.  You can find those videos at the link below...

http://www.toddehle.com/id70.html

 

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Thank you Crazy.. that information rocks.. I have a day off tomorrow so I will look into those links.. thank you.

 

I played Star tonight.. nice and slow. Breaking in new strings...  I really like it slow.. seems to howl and moan a bit...but I can't wait to rev it up a bit too.

 

Thank you again.

Toni

 

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You are welcome. Keep up the good work. You are doing fine.

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