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Fiddlerman
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July 1, 2016 - 2:35 pm
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Very cool ūüôā¬†thumbs-up

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Very cool!!! 

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Love it!  This will be an interesting blog to follow and learn from. I am a novice player (like about 1.5 years) but am taking a plunge and have purchased an old violin plus some parts to go with it with the goal of trying to set it up to be playable.  It is coming in the mail, so when received I will perhaps send in some photos and look for some advice on things.  

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Fiddlerman
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July 2, 2016 - 5:20 pm
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Great intrepidgirl. By all means send your questions to our luthiers. ūüôā

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I made a little purchase and it showed up today in the mail.  Here is the violin for you all view.  Comments are welcome.  It is essentially some old instrument in an old case, and I thought it looked whole enough that I would try to set it up and get it playable.  

Question #1 for my luthiers: Looking at what you see here (a few cracks on the front) should I not even try to setup, but take it in for repairs to the front first (or ponder taking it apart myself - I have been know to do foolish things).  There do not appear to be any other repairs on it.  Also, the soundpost is rolling around inside, and no labels in it.  There is something written on the back inside, and here is my sketch of it, attached.  

Also, here are two pictures of the violin.  I have attached a file with many more for your viewing pleasure!

 

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I did some digging, and confirmed a suspicion. Horse hairs are indeed directional. (I'm using a work computer, so I can't provide images. Search google images for "horse hair micrograph".)

Since all the little plates that make up the surface do overlap in one direction (like shingles on a house), do you take approximately half the hair and turn it end for end so it will be biased the opposite direction from the rest? Or is the effect so small (after rosin gets involved) that there's no point to it?

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Fiddlerman
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July 9, 2016 - 11:22 pm
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Charles, I wonder what you are responding to?

intrepidgirl, We just made a video on how to resurrect the sound-post but the cracks are another issue. They look tame enough to me. I believe your instruments top will be fine without repair. Is it unglued anywhere?

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I think the glue looks and feels sound but will look closely. Next step will be to clean it up a bit. Any recommended cleaner for this other than very gentle soap and water followed by some oil to liven up the wood?  

 I have ordered a number of bits and pieces from the Fiddlerman store - tailpiece, a bridge, a few tools and some strings.  Will definitely tackle the new sound post setting, got a tool for that too and I have seen your video.  Will post the progress here.

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RonB
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I'm not sure that it's understood that members are to email their questions to luthier@fiddlershop.com for consideration for inclusion in a weekly video.

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BillyG
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LOL - yup @RonB and indeed @charles and @Fiddlerman - Pierre - the original post looked like it was an "open forum" for folks to ask questions from your luthiers ( i.e. what Charles asked about the bow hair - a fair question which I suspect he answered himself - the rosin is more significant than the "plates" on the hair surface - at least that's what I would suspect...   an un-rosined bow will just "whisper" on the strings - if even that...)

But yeah - great idea FiddlerMan - good stuff, and I'm sure there will be occasional questions asked here - and - equally - I just know you guys at FiddlerShop will respond...  as I said - great idea...  ^5s

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RonB
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Hi @BillyG  Right. Great idea.

I think a forum where members can ask questions would work better if they could start a new thread for each question. Otherwise, questions and answers would get interleaved. Could get confusing fast. 

That said, I'm looking forward to videos here by the luthiers. Thanks, Fiddlerman.

 

Changing the subject: Weird behavior. When I save my post, it changes Fiddlerman to fiddlerguy (when preceded by @), and there's no link to BillyG's id. 

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Fiddlerman
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Thanks Ron, I didn't even think about that. Yes, please send ideas, questions, requests to the luthiers email address.
luthier@fiddlershop.com

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BillyG
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 @BillyG and @RonB - Ron- the "orginal names we registered with" are, or seem to be, linked into the WordPress service.   My original nick when I joined was "MadBill" - but I subsequently changed my nick to BillyG - and now when I select my OWN ID ( BillyG ) - I'll do it again - @BillyG - I typed the "@" sign followed by "BillyG" - and it changes to my original nick - which was MadBill.  Quite a few others have changed nicks - like Diane - originally now "KindaScratchy" but her original nick comes up when you address her - and appears as valentineviolin or something similar - you're fine there Ron - just an artifact of WordPress I guess...   but somewhat disconcerting for folks trying to tag you....

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Fiddlerman
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I have no idea where fiddlerguy comes from.

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@fiddlerguy - it you type the "@" followed by "fiddlerman" - like this @fiddlerguy ( i.e. I did not type "@" and "fiddlerguy" - it was "@" and "fiddlerman" - that's when it occurs....  it seems that to specifically tag YOU ( Pierre ) users need to address you as "@" followed by "admin" ....  

This was just a test - I'll see how it appears AFTER posting - during typing and creation of the post - it LOOKS FINE - it's only after it is posted that it gets "corrupted"

If this test fails - I'll delete it...  but I think that describes what's happening...  hang on till I hit send and we'll see...  I could be wrong

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Yup -- the test worked - here ( as an image ) is what I originally typed - "@fiddlerguy" changes to @and fiddlerguy -

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It's a bit like we ( normal members - i.e. non admins - cannot see .mscz files - something still unresolved - you and Diane @KindaScratchy  can see them - no-one else - it's just WP I guess and we gotta live with it)

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Fiddlerman
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July 11, 2016 - 9:59 pm
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I understand but fiddlerguy is not me. It's a user with a completely different username and email address. He has not been active but he is a user. ūüôĀ

I just wonder how @Fiddlerman can turn into another user?

I may just delete fiddlerguy since that username is not active anyway.

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Fiddlerman
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July 11, 2016 - 10:00 pm
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PS, it didn't do that for me. ūüôĀ

Might have something to do with the browser you use.

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I've had it do that to me on my iPad, but I've always blamed autocorrect and the screen bouncing around maybe making me hit something I shouldn't have. I do see it happen with a lot of people as I read through the forum, when they are meaning to tag you and instead are tagging fiddlerguy.

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