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Buzzing G-String
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coolpinkone
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I am a bit distressed.....not overly. 

I will have it looked at and I will get to the root of the issue.  But the dreaded day when something is actually "wrong" with my violin.

My soloist... Nothing serious.. I am sure.. but all strings play beautifully but the G -strings after vibration turns to a nasty buzz... sounds like something is vibrating.. it is the darndest thing....

I just discovered it Saturday.. so I am still reading and working on it.. I am tempted to start small and just removed the string and try another string....  Kinda like starting with the easiest of things... something in my intuition says it is more than that....

But I won't freak out just yet. 

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October 12, 2015 - 5:28 pm
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Don't freak out for sure. I'm sure it's something simple. The tough part will be finding the culprit. 🙂

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Might could very well be the scoop in the neck. Meaning the fingerboard half way from the nut to the bridge is higher in the middle causing the string to touch the fingerboard. If you saw the video on how much strings vibrate when played it's easy to see that could be the problem.

The neck should have a slight dip /or concave in the center rather than higher or convex. The G string vibrates violently when played.

Just one possibility, Toni. I hope you figure it out.

 

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I seriously doubt if the neck became the culprit in such a short time. Not dismissing it but highly doubtful it is to blame in this case.

I will take a close look if changing the string doesn't solve your issue. Aren't those the new Larson strings?

Maybe swap with the G string on the Ming and see if it still buzzes. That way if it does, you can just put the first string from the Soloist on your Ming and it would save removing and replacing two strings. Just a thought.

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Aw, I hope it ends up being something simple, which I'm sure it is. I'd be surprised as well if it was the neck since your soloist is not that old. I agree with the suggestion to swap the G string from the Ming.

Let us know what you find out.

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It's amazing the number of tiny things that can have a huge effect on the sound of a violin. Once my G string went all wonky on me and it turned out that the bridge had tilted forward a tiny amount. Pulling the bridge back just a hair fixed the problem straight away. You'll just have to examine everything very closely until you figure it out.

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@Uzi - I am really excited to hear this bit of info, so before I take off the strings.. I will check the bridge.... My soloist sits safely on a table.. no kids or people around... but I would say that a dog tail or someone might have knocked it off and did not tell me.. or just some sort of shift. (I recall I recently did have to do something with the soloist bridge after changing strings)... so very very excited to try out this simpler fix first. thank you.

@cdennyb & @damfino   - I will troubleshoot with strings first. Although I am not really liking the idea of messing with my two  "new" Larsen G Strings.  

@Fiddlestix - thank you... I am hoping it is not what you suggested...but I am am glad I am aware of what it could be.

Thanks everyone.. I will report back.

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Hope it's not necessary but in the worse case, ship it to us to have a look. 🙂

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Hello and good news!!

Well... I had a bad Larsen estring.  It popped on me while at work about a month ago.   My soloist has a loop end fine tuner. (I didn't have a loop end E string, so I put an E - string  on my violin that had a ball end. I just put the ball on the little hook.   (I could not get the ball to slip off  the end). Any way the e string tuned just fine.. and I never looked back.   

So I just need a new correct E - string. 

YAHOOOOOOOO!!! 

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Two of the best E strings available,
One is the Lenzner and the other is the Westminster
http://fiddlershop.com/lenzner.....ecify.html
http://fiddlershop.com/westmin.....-loop.html

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Great. When things like this happen it's usually something very minor causing it. Finding that minor thing can be very challenging though.

A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. ~Herm Albright

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UPDATE:  So the string was changed to a loop end.. and THE vibration / Buzzing was still there.  

It ended up being that the fine tuner was rattling... some little screw or something behind the fine tuner had to be tightened.

ALL is well in my violin world.

I spent some time cleaning and polishing my Ming, Soloist and Hoffman Concert this weekend... Kind of like washing the car.. they seem to play so well when clean.  🙂

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LOL @coolpinkone - glad you found it !   

Clean and polish ?  I do that as well, but recently I've had to wipe the blood off mine first !

I seriously recommend not copying my mistakes.  

Please make your own, different mistakes, and help us all learn :-)

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Glad you found the other little thing.  Now it's my turn, but I knew this was going to happen before it did.  Yesterday I turned the house heat on for the first time -- you can guess what happened next -- oh yeah -- floppy strings. 

A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. ~Herm Albright

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oh  boy..... I did not know this happens when heat is turned on...

all is well now?  

And is there something that we should do before we turn the heat on for the first time.  I think still here in October in California.. I have a long way to go before I use heat... but I'd like to know more about this.

Yea.. I have been playing a while... but I never paid attention to this type of detail the first two years of playing... learning to play was hard enough for me.. LOL

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Opps.. disregard this post... meant to go to Damfino's progress post... 🙂

 

Awh.. sweet!!!

You are moving right along.

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@BillyG I got a bleeding finger putting an e string on my violin this weekend.. I poked my finger and .. well... I didn't die.. LOL

Your injury sounds way to serious to even joke about... sending good vibes and more healing...

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Yay, glad it's all fixed now 🙂

I've been wondering about what to do different when the heat is on. I only just turned the furnace on this weekend because it was getting in the 30s at night, I had to give in, lol, but neither of the violins behaved any differently... But then they are kept on the top floor where the furnace doesn't heat as well.

@BillyG Oh no, what did you do?

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They recomend a humitiy of 40% to 50% I believe so you can humidify the house/practice room or they make case humifiers you can buy or there is a post on the board on how to make one or you can use a dampit stix that you put in the F hole, fiddler shop sells these.My 100+ year old fiddle developed its first crack last year and required a top off repair to fix it I'm thinking about using two dampit stixs one in each F hole

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@Mark Thanks for the tip. It's been staying around 50% in the room I leave my violins, but I know it'll dry out this winter, so I will have to make sure I have the dampit stixs. I've always meant to get a humidifier for the winter months, so maybe I'll have to finally do that.

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