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This looks Easy!

 

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I have one of these and they are good for the initial positioning, but for fine adjustment you still really need the conventional style setter.

A good thing about them is that they let you see the posts position in relation to the bridge by the  black top piece

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Where can I buy a sound post putter inner? Not a bad thing to have available. I know fiddlershop has a sound post adjuster, but I didn't see a putter inner.

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HDuaneaz said
Where can I buy a sound post putter inner? Not a bad thing to have available. I know fiddlershop has a sound post adjuster, but I didn't see a putter inner.

@HDuaneaz Hi Duane

You can find them here

http://www.violinsoundpost.com....._buddy.htm

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Well that certainly did LOOk easy. 

 

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@HDuaneaz: I have the type as shown in the video, but I also have the adjuster you mentioned. The adjuster is also a putter inner, lol, the pointed end is for jabbing the post and positioning it in place, then using the other end for moving it around once in place.

Personally I like the one in the video for setting it close, but it's not much help to adjust it. The release tab on setter is much too flimsy for adjustment so you'll probably need the other as well.

Some people get paranoid about their sound post falling, but if you have the tool's it's not a big deal. 

 

Ken.

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Fiddlerman
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We sell those as well. We have a ton of them in stock but unfortunately it looks like we forgot to list them. LOL

I agree with John though. You can use that to put it in place but you should have the traditional setter to further adjust it. It's not really made for moving the post around.

We'll have the link to the K&S setter up on Monday. :)

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I never used that one, so i don't understand how to control the accidental turns of the soundpost while setting it with that tool... I mean, the traditional one i use has to spear the soundpost and i can use it as a guide to make sure that the angles of the sound post match violin's body... And will i be able to correct it with rotation of this tool? It looks a bit big for such thingsdunno If that one is really that comfortable and easy as it looks, i'd like to get one drooling

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The reason I asked is I have always wondered how you get the sound post in there. When is was in school 5th through 9th grade, my sound post was always falling. My school teacher had a music shop, and he just took it to his shop and put it back in. I just missed practicing that night.

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I use a short (about 16" long) length of dental floss and tie a hitch to the post near one end that I determine to be the top (adjust the hitch to place the mark towards the front as I want) and with a pencil mark showing me the front side, I drop it inside and fish out the ends of the floss and while holding the floss in one hand between my fingers (each end of the floss coming out each of the ff holes)... I make the post dance around and then I take my home made post adjuster and slide it into position and then make the final adjustment(s). Tugging on one end of the floss will make it slide and "untie" and thus it's out fo the violin, the post is set and I'm done, usually within about 15 min or so.

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I have traditional one and a Juzek one, but I like my own invention the best:)

I use a straw and a piece of yarn, I also did what DanielB did - use a pencil to mark the front and top. My sound posts also danced around a lot, sometimes it took me about a half hour. I used the traditional one to adjust it.

I kind of like the idea of K&KS that you knew exactly where to put it, and it makes setting a sound post seem so easy. I think the design is once you set the sound post you don't need to adjust it. I may give it a try.

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As I said earlier, we have a lot of these in stock and only sold one. LOL

Our fault for neglecting to list it. Here is the link to the VSP-CLASSIC sound-post setter and remover.

This tool is super easy to use and I highly recommend it, however, you need an adjuster to go along with it. It's not strong enough to move the sound post after you insert it. Just strong enough to wedge it in approximately the right spot then you need to push and pull it to the right pressure and further adjust it with THIS tool.

We have all this stuff in stock and can ship the same or the next working day that you order :-)

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have the same setter, works well, sometimes a post is thick enough where you cannot put the post in the setter and get the whole apparatus thru the F hole so I put the post in the setter inside the body.. you will still need traditional adjuster to finish the set. I also made a small tapper to tap the post as needed, handy..

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When that happens fishnrodds, just put the setter in and stick the post through the f-hole right into the setter which is already inside the violin.

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yup, thats how ya do it! lol  the post in my stainer was pretty fat, Instead of trying to get it out thru the f hole i just left it in and held it while slipping the setting tool around it..quit fighting it and it went pretty good...

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Sound Post Diameter in mm.

4/4 Violin      15 1/2 Viola     16 1/2 Viola     4/4 Cello     3/4 Double Bass

     6.0                  6.0                   7.0                11                     17

Reference: USEFUL MEASUREMENTS FOR VIOLIN MAKERS, by Henry A. Strobel.

His books are used worldwide by violin maker's and luthier's and well worth $ 12.50 for this particular book. It include's any measurement you could ever want, from fingerboard length, height, radius and scoop to string height and playing length, bridge thickness's and even distance between peg hole's in the scroll.  I can't tell everthing in the book, but it's all there.

 

http://www.henrystrobel.com 

 

Ken.

 

 

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We don't change all sound-posts in the instruments that ship out from Fiddlershop but a good percentage, depending on how they sound as is. I can tell you that we see all sizes and extremely badly fitted posts as well. Almost every time we change a post we have a completely different violin. The difference can be shocking.

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You can also find sound post setters and other Luthier tools here.

 

https://www.violins.ca/tools/index.html

 

They also have tutorials on sizing and cutting and shaping sound posts, proper preparation and mixing of hide glue, etc.

 

 

 

 

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Great link @Crazymotive Have bookmarked it :)

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