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7 Advanced Techniques for Serious Fiddlers
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Hman
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I'll let you know if/when I ever get 1 of these down lol.

Edit: I can do number 7, never stop smiling!!!

 

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LOL,

That is truly impressive. :-)

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Link works again! The user took it offline for a few hours...weird.

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Above all else, this should be fun! Great video!

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Loved the video!  Thanks for sharing thislaugh

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Hahahahaha!!!! That's awesome! And my teacher still can't make me march while i play...roflroflrofl

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I used to be so bored practicing as a kid that I would walk all around the house playing Mozart concertos and such..... I guess walking is my limit. LOL

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Wow...  It makes me think back to one of MS Gopalakrishnan's concerts where Chembai challenged him to play with his violin laying flat on the floor and with his hands reversed...  and he did it on the spot without batting an eye.  Or where one guy asked him a question about how he was able to cover so much range with one string and asked "do you even need 4 strings?"...  so he didn't say a word as he removed his D, A, and E strings, and then played through the rest of the concert using the G string only and his middle finger only.

The coolest thing about this video to me, though, is the fact that it's not just the one guy...  he trains a whole bunch of kids to do it, too.  Yesterday, while waiting for my train, I at least saw a playing while on a unicyle, but this is something else.  This guy is friggin' awesome, though I don't think I'll ever get in a car with him driving ;-)

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@cpiasminc I completely agree. Not only is John (that's his name) a great player with a great attitude, he got all of his beginners in his camp to do those things as well. It just goes to show you what a great teacher can do for you. I wish I lived near him. He's in NC if I remember correctly. People here in FL aren't as generous as this guy is when it comes to sharing what you know out of the goodness of your heart. FM excluded of course. ostrich-chase

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that was great !!

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Oh wow......I needed that laugh!!  That was great!!  Talking about keeping things interesting while learning! LOL  

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Do you think there is a reason to work on these special techniques?

  • No, leave these stunts to the acrobats 🙂(53% : 8 votes)
  • Yes, it can prove to be useful for playing normally.(47% : 7 votes)
Total Voters: 15

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seriously amusing.  g

 

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Hey, that's John.  I've been watching his videos for almost two years.  

 

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I think this kind of thing is great. 

However, I have a slide slight grudge against that guy for telling people that Swallowtail Jig is in E-minor.  It's Dorian, and I wonder whether that's why it sounds bad when he plays it, ha ha.

Edit: in part B of STJ, he puts in a slide, seemingly from F to F# on the E-string, and that's what hurts my ear. htttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNbO8XbJ_Hw

 

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@RosinedUp: Every piece of sheet music I've found say's it's written in Em and what does STJ have to do with this thread ?

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@RosinedUp: Every piece of sheet music I've found say's it's written in Em

I've never seen a piece of sheet music that "says" anything.  You would have to be able to read it.  Since you always say that you don't have time for sheet music, I'm not much inclined to explain it to you. On the other hand, whoever knows what Dorian mode is and can play the piece can detect that it is Dorian, with or without sheet music.

Not everyone means the same thing by "minor".  However, the piece is usually written with a key signature of D and ends on E, implying Dorian mode.  On the STJ party thread, I play it consistent with a key sig of G and end it on A, also implying Dorian mode.  It's easy enough to find web pages that state that the piece is in Dorian mode---by searching for "swallowtail jig" and "dorian".  Those making statements to the contrary probably couldn't explain what Dorian means.

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@RosinedUp: and what does STJ have to do with this thread ?

One might ask why, If STJ has nothing to do with the thread, you would choose to prolong the discussion.  Even though it might require more effort, maybe you should try for some positive instead of negative attention.  When you ask a question, it should be something that you want to know the answer to.

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The fiddlers fake book says;.....er its a book on tape I listen to...yeah thats it.....thats the ticket! anyways, printed on the page is E Dorian......crap, I must agree with Rosined Up......no, wait......the first guitar chord that shows up is the E minor! ha, ha...I disagree with Rosined Up....whew, feeling better now.....no, wait........its notated in the key of D major.......wtf?.........no, wait.........it begins on G and ends on.....crap, there are so many repeats and parts where does it end?!!!.....the last note on the page is a E.......crap, theres a pickup note, is that where it begins or can I ignore that for this?........gheeeezus! No wonder the irish drink tons of whiskey! That way they can just play and ignore the drunk basterd who thinks up all this theroetical mind confusion stuff!

ps. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorian_mode all hail the great and powerful "Wiki"!

Also pardon my french, Its just how my brain works. Also this is a bit of satire and not meant to offend anyone. bunny-headbang
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Picklefish said ......crap

Yes, I agree: you are confused.  You haven't availed yourself of what you would need to understand the question.  And it's too bad, since it's not much like rocket science.  OTOH you can get by without knowing it, so it might be best for you to ignore the question. 

I did find one part of your post, the Wiki link, to have some value.  Not that it's the best place to start studying modes, but the section on modern Dorian mode should lead to some understanding if studied earnestly.  But what would be a lot more useful that way would be a desire to understand.

It wasn't my intention to turn the thread into a discussion of modes.  I was trying to offer a data point about the guy who devises these violin stunts in the video.  He doesn't seem to understand modes, and he plays STJ out of scale.  But again I say that he's done a great job doing and teaching these very fun stunts.

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as good as John plays, i'd hardly be the one to criticize his choice of how he plays any particular tune. maybe he didnt wanna play it that way. besides, any music that there is only one right way to play it is a crap composition.

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