Welcome to our forum. A Message To Our New and Prospective Members . Check out our Forum Rules. Lets keep this forum an enjoyable place to visit.

Check out our 2023 Group Christmas Project HERE

AAA
Avatar
Please consider registering
guest
sp_LogInOut Log Insp_Registration Register
Register | Lost password?
Advanced Search
Forum Scope




Match



Forum Options



Minimum search word length is 3 characters - maximum search word length is 84 characters
sp_Feed Topic RSSsp_TopicIcon
Hello fellow musicians
Topic Rating: 5 Topic Rating: 5 Topic Rating: 5 Topic Rating: 5 Topic Rating: 5 Topic Rating: 5 (1 votes) 
Avatar
thetaz

Member
Members
May 11, 2015 - 11:58 am
Member Since: May 11, 2015
Forum Posts: 3
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Hello,

 

          My name is Marius, I'm from Romania and I study violin since I was 7 (I'm 21 now). I am in desperate need of help with a university project. I need to find a piece of music which is not tonal, it's modal and it must be folkloristic(I hope that's a  word).I need to find authentic folklore music of any nation(not my own nation) which can be played at violin and it must be modal not tonal.I must present a score analyse it and play it.. I searched alot and couldn't find anything serious.Now I turn my attention to forums maybe people are able to help me.

 

Good to meet you,

Marius

Avatar
Georganne
Members

Regulars
May 11, 2015 - 12:55 pm
Member Since: August 28, 2013
Forum Posts: 993
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

I don't know the difference between tonal and model I guess.  Can you explain music that is not tonal?  

 

Opportunity is often missed because it wears suspenders and looks like hard work.

 

Alaska, the Madness; Bloggity Stories of the North Country

Avatar
thetaz

Member
Members
May 11, 2015 - 12:58 pm
Member Since: May 11, 2015
Forum Posts: 3
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

not tonal music can be atonal(almost no rules) or modal. The not modal music is not plaed in any key.The modal music is played in some specific modes(ex dorian,ionian,locrian etc) :)

Avatar
DanielB
Regulars

Members
May 11, 2015 - 3:52 pm
Member Since: May 4, 2012
Forum Posts: 2379
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

At least as far as I understand the requirements for your assignment, some of the older Scottish or Irish pieces might be something for you to look into. 

If you also are supposed to imitate the style of playing, it may be difficult to find examples.  The only old recordings that come immediately to mind would be stuff like J. Scott Skinner

https://www.youtube.com/watch?.....u2MdilumP8

It is hard luck that you are not allowed to use music of your own country for the assignment.  Your part of the world resisted the "common practice" (tonal) rules of the 19th century better than most, and more folk themes survived unaltered. 

Even with J. Scott Skinner, you may have to be a bit careful to get copies of the scores that have not been re-written to make them more palatable to modern orchestral soloists' tastes.  (Meaning, changed to be closer to tonal "common practice" style).

Anyway, it sounds like a very cool assignment.  Not an easy one, though, I am sure.  LOL

"This young wine may have a lot of tannins now, but in 5 or 10 years it is going to be spectacular, despite the fact that right now it tastes like crude oil. You know this is how it is supposed to taste at this stage of development." ~ Itzhak Perlman

Avatar
Fiddlerman
Fort Lauderdale
May 12, 2015 - 7:42 pm
Member Since: September 26, 2010
Forum Posts: 16430

I have a great memory but it's very short so I can't come up with anything. ;)
However, welcome to our forum and please feel free to post a video of your performance later so that we can enjoy it as well.

"The richest person is not the one who has the most,
but the one who needs the least."

Avatar
sus49
Vancouver Island, BC Canada

Member
Members
May 13, 2015 - 12:15 pm
Member Since: April 27, 2015
Forum Posts: 38
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

I have heard music from India and the middle east that most  certainly fits the criteria you have described.  But I can't think of any specific names at them moment.  But I am certain that if you look at that area you will find a lot of things that will work for you! 

Avatar
thetaz

Member
Members
May 13, 2015 - 3:58 pm
Member Since: May 11, 2015
Forum Posts: 3
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

thank you all. I found some armenian,persian and turkis pieces with recordings and scores after a night on google... now it remains to chose one style and practice it :) thank you all for the worm welcome :)

Avatar
coolpinkone
California, the place of my heart
May 16, 2015 - 4:47 pm
Member Since: January 11, 2012
Forum Posts: 4180
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

I just wanted to say welcome to the forum and good luck with your project. 

Cheers,

Toni

Vibrato Desperato.... Desperately seeking vibrato

Avatar
Uzi
Georgia

Honorary tenured advisor
Members

Regulars
May 16, 2015 - 6:10 pm
Member Since: January 19, 2014
Forum Posts: 973
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Well, I'm glad that you found what you were looking for.  Strictly speaking, there are probably at least as many modal pieces as non-modal pieces in folk music,  assuming we are talking about the modes as you described them, (Dorian, Phrygian, Lydian, Mixolydian, etc.). Of course, I may not understand the question properly. 

A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. ~Herm Albright

Forum Timezone: America/New_York
Most Users Ever Online: 696
Currently Online:
Guest(s) 80
Currently Browsing this Page:
1 Guest(s)
Members Birthdays
sp_BirthdayIcon
Today None
Upcoming Shell, Squiryl, Schaick, GlassTownCur, mcassidy2004, Reptile Smile, MyMing, CarolineNH, JamesRSmithJr, SethroTull86
Top Posters:
ELCBK: 7834
ABitRusty: 3922
Mad_Wed: 2849
Barry: 2690
Fiddlestix: 2647
Oliver: 2439
Gordon Shumway: 2435
DanielB: 2379
Mark: 2155
damfino: 2113
Member Stats:
Guest Posters: 3
Members: 31673
Moderators: 0
Admins: 7
Forum Stats:
Groups: 16
Forums: 82
Topics: 10606
Posts: 134404
Newest Members:
alicedcoz258, Dres pirate, tonyluo, Terrence Terry Ruddy, andrea924breaux, pybring, stive4545, kevin498, Fiddlerjones, FidgetFrog
Administrators: Fiddlerman: 16430, KindaScratchy: 1760, coolpinkone: 4180, BillyG: 3744, MrsFiddlerman: 2, Jimmie Bjorling: 0, Mouse: 5361