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Sorry to hear it, Neo, especially considering you obviously liked the instrument and were having fun playing it. It is a beauty, too.
What I would worry a bit about though, is that your local climate may be dry enough in the cold season that when you get a new violin, you may run into similar troubles with it. You might want to get a hygrometer, which is an instrument for measuring humidity in the air. Fancy ones can be expensive, but small simple ones are not. The ones I use, I paid about 3$ USD for, I think. I don't recall exactly, since I bought several of them at once, but they weren't expensive. Pic below. Oh, and that humidity that it is reading is not what I use for instruments, that is the one out of the bathroom where someone took a shower a little bit ago.
FM would know better than I about what a violin might need for humidity, but I do have wood instruments that are held together by hide glue and have varnish finishes. I have never had one get damp enough to have the glue come apart, but mold and mildew would be definite hazards if an instrument was kept too damp.
So what humidity is good? Well, the expert opinions seem to vary quite a bit on that. But what I think is a key is that they will sound a bit different with changes in humidity. If the humidity goes out of the range of about 40-65%, I start getting nervous, though. I have some instruments that sound great at 60%, not so good at 50%. Others like a bit more or less. How do you get less? Well, unless humidity was very high, I usually wouldn't. But sometimes when I've worked on other people's instruments that had gotten soaked due to carelessness, plumbing disasters or flood, I have put it into a closet with a basement de-humidifier. That is basically a bucket full of silica stuff that absorbs water out of the air. But it can make the air very dry in the closet and that wouldn't be good for anything like long term storage. That's more of an emergency measure.
Humidity here can go quite high in the summer sometimes, 85-90% once in a while. Then I take the humidifiers out of cases, and leave cases open. But that is more worrying about mold or mildew. I haven't had any damage that I have seen over the years from too much humidity, but I may have just been lucky, too.
Again, I don't know the specifics or what acoustic violins need or prefer so far as humidity. I do own one instrument in particular that is probably even more finicky, though. My oud is made of several different woods and has a bit of inlay work on it. Anyplace where there is a join, especially between two different woods or mother of pearl and etc, there can be an increased chance of cracking or separation if humidity or temperature vary too much. This one likes it at just about 60% and when the weather is very cold and dry I sometimes have to re-wet the sponge I keep in it's case almost every day.
"Every child is an artist. The problem is how to remain an artist once he grows up." -- Pablo Picasso
Humidity is almost always high with all the rain we have in Québec but earlier this year I was using a small humid sponge in a zyploc bag left open in my case, it was keeping the humidity at a good level for pennies!
Cheer up brother… it's like dating… remember when you thought you were in love and would stay together forever?
Well, this is just another of your many 'friends' you'll have a relationship with and one day you'll meet that special one and fall in love again… and it'll be the "one" you been waiting for.
Might find it at a yard sale, a flea market, a dumpster, even a shop. Who knows, but she's waiting out there for you to find 'er right now, so keep looking.
I got my money back today….. relations were strained but he offered to sell me a new cardboard chinese violin for $50. I am thinking that I should take him up on his offer so I can still make some noise until I find something grand within my budget that I love. I don't want to give up on the violin just yet…….
@ DanielB Thanks for your very informative post, I really appreciate the effort you went to in writing all that out you have some very beautiful instruments! I will look into getting a hygrometer, Cheers.
@ Noir Velours Cheers for your post! Is that a photo of you in your avatar? Very pretty! but Canadian gurls normally are
@ Mad Wed Cheers Mate I will go get that violin now… I was afraid that I might teach my hearing bad tuning etc (if that makes sense) if I buy a cheap violin, but if I give up now I may not pick up another violin for a decade… better to be a bad fiddler than not be a fiddler at all……….. hopefully
I still have plans on carving my own fiddle, I have been researching tone woods and carving tools, but I expect it will take me a year to get all of the tools and timber together
I just got back from the shop, I bought the cheap nasty one. lol it is real nasty… its made from particle board hahaha. They tried to sell me a case for as much as the violin cost me and the bow they tried to sell me looked like the hair was so brittle it would break in a day. I didn't buy either the case or the bow… but atleast I will be able to practice my fingering while I pluck on the strings tonight 8 )
I just finished reading this entire forum. WOW! You have had a heck of a time.
Sorry I haven't greeted you before now. Been working a lot and just running out of time. I'm really glad to have another noob in here besides me. (There are other noob's, but I think I am the most lacking.) SO officially, WELCOME!
I'm really sorry to hear about your violin issues, bro. At least you have somethign to Fiddle with. (Pun intended.) I am still waiting on mine. (Fathers Day needs to hurry. like, NOW!!!!) Also, not having one is why I am the oldest noob right now. (Way I see it, if anyone has a fiddle, they are already more experienced than me.)
Hope ya find "the one" fiddle that'll always be your fav. Give it time. But just keep in mind also. Fiddlerman has his shop, Fiddlershop.com that has a lot of awesome fiddles for good money. Also he has a lot of videos that show him actually reviewing them, so that helps. Plus Fiddlerman is real cool about helping you get a fiddle, even if it isn't one he carries. So keep that in mind to.
Well, glad ta have ya. Hope to see ya in the chat room sometime as well as here in the forum. Good luck and God Bless.
Well, if you *want* a bow and don't want to put the bucks into getting one right now, you could always make one.
Here's a couple articles where making a bow is part of the instructions.
The first one takes a bit of work, the second one is dead easy, just a bit of stiff wire and some thread. No rosin? Well, if there is any sort of evergreen that oozes a bit of sap in your area, you could try a mostly dried bit of that, or hard beeswax can also sorta work.
Great quality? Nah! But something to use when you get sick of plucking the strings? Possible. They work, sorta. Not as good a sound as even a freebie Chinese bow, but they're something. I made both types of bows a couple months ago, and gave them to a friend after I'd messed with them a little.
The point I'm trying to make is: If you're going to play, don't let anything stop you.
suresh: I will see if I can make up something to play on oud that I can use as a backing or duet track for a recording with violin perhaps. Mostly I showed the pic as an example of another complex and finicky acoustic instrument with a lot of hide glue and varnish that a humidifier made with just a sponge and a plastic sandwich bag has kept in good condition with no problems for a few years now, even through harsh and dry winter weather.
"Every child is an artist. The problem is how to remain an artist once he grows up." -- Pablo Picasso
I forgot to mention,,,, the distance from bridge to tailpiece should be approximately 1/6 the distance from nut to bridge. In the case of my violin, from bridge to nut is
12 15/16", so the distance from bridge to tailpiece is just over 2".
I had fine tuner's on all four string's,, I just now removed all but the E tuner, it made a difference in the sound quality.
…@ Mad Wed Cheers Mate I will go get that violin now… I was afraid that I might teach my hearing bad tuning etc (if that makes sense) if I buy a cheap violin, but if I give up now I may not pick up another violin for a decade… better to be a bad fiddler than not be a fiddler at all……….. hopefully
Bad violin will NOT make You a bad fiddler. Russians say : "Не имей Амати, а умей играти" – "Don't have the Amati but have a good playing", something like that…
About "bad tunung": there could be violins that don't hold the tuning, but it's quite rare. My one is a good example… But i figured out what it's all about in my case – the bridge is anfractuous (sorry, guys i used this word again).
an·frac·tu·ous ( n-fr k ch – s). adj. Full of twists and turns; tortuous. [From Late Latin anfractu sus, from Latin anfr ctus, winding
What a great word…..hmmmm my new lifes mission shall be to use 'anfractuous' in a verbal conversation lol
Thanks for sharing those posts Danielb they made for a good read!
With out a bow i had a bit of a pluck on the strings last night, but its just not the same hahaha.
I am thinking about buying a carbon bow… I started looking on ebay last night for a cheap bow and came across the carbon ones… apparently they wont warp,twist or break, which sounds like a good thing 8 ). I read reveiws on their performance, apparently they sound different and some people like them and some don't. Has anyone had experience with them? And has anyone dared to buy one of Ebay? LOL if I buy one it will cost at the very minimum twice as much as my violin hahahaha. But its all good, as I said above I am going to try make my own violin out of quality tone woods 8)
I found this great site for violin design! Maths is a strength of mine but focusing on reading is not haha, I will work my way through it eventually.
Hey Neo…if you are looking for a good Carbon Fiber bow, I've been told that there is a really good one in Fiddlershop. I haven't got to get one yet, but it is on my agenda. I think a couple of the members on here have gotten one already and really like it, but I couldn't tell ya who if my life depended on it. (It doesn't. Does it?) A carbon Fiber bow is on my list of rewards for meeting my goals. Check out Fiddlermans carbon fiber bow and watch his video see what ya think. And his aren't near as expensive as some of the eBay bows out there.
Here's the link http://fiddlershop.com/fiddler…..r-bow.html
At the least check it out and ask the other members what they think. I really want to get one of these too, but I like to keep my options open.
Yes Neo, I was kind of naive too until I realized that I had the perfect resource for starting a violin shop online. My son and I opened FiddlerShop.com in January and are very pleased with the results so far.
I would guess that at least 10 people here on the forum have a FIDDLERMAN bow CF bow.
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