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jasiones
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Hello everyone!

 

My name is Jason, I am 30 years old and am now serious about learning to play the violin!

 

I have been wanting to learn the violin for about 5-7 years but was very scared to try because I always assumed you needed to learn at a young age in order to play it well.  I am not very musically inclined, The last music instrument I played was a plastic flute in 4th grade (and honestly I didnt know what i was doing then)  I cant read sheet music, don't know notes and dont even know the anatomy of a violin.

 

I am very interested in learning all that, and decided that I will practice on an electric violin (to save my GF's sanity) I came across this website from reading a review for an electric violin on amazon (and i came to the conclusion that one will be a great one to start out with) 

Brand Spanking new violinist rocking a cecilio CEVN-1BK electric.

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Welcome Jason to the family!

You're gonna find that most of us are beyond the 30 yr mark and are still dumb enough to think we can learn the violin. Of course there will be different levels of achievment there as well. I'm 58 and only want to play for myself and maybe a few select friends. My expectations are much lower than another member who might be interested in learning for an on stage career.

It's a fun place to learn and post your achievements... even the small ones.

After 6 months you'd be really impressed with yourself I think. Starting out on an acoustic violin instead of an electric (unless you need to use the electric for quiet control) will help you learn many of the fundamentals before embarking on a special sounding instrument complete with all the effects and gadgets for different sounds.

There's several here that play both and I'm sure they'll pop in and suggest some good advice and welcome cheers.

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Hi jasiones, and welcome.

I'm one of the people here who plays both acoustic and electric violin.  I like them both quite a lot.  You can learn your basic playing and a lot about music on either one.  They are played the same, tuned the same, and etc.  Electrics are easier to use with effects and amplifier settings and a bit easier to make recordings with, but amplifiers and effects are an added expense somewhere along the way, more gear to lug around if you eventually want to play in public, and etc.   

The #1 best reason to play electric, in my opinion, if is you like the sound of the electrics.  The #2 reason would be if you want to be able to practice any time you want without disturbing others.

But I have to say that if what you want is the definite sound of the acoustic violin, then an electric doesn't quite get it.  Electrics have good sounds of their own, just not exactly the same sounds.

I don't think there's really a bad choice of which to start with, or a bad choice if one decides they want to play one instead of the other.  They are both instruments that can be great fun to play and can deliver many enjoyable sounds with a bit of practice.

If maybe your concern is that you won't sound so good at first, well, you'll get better.  I wouldn't suggest letting just that decide the matter for you, if it is actually the big concern.

But hey, I started with electric, then got an acoustic later.  The big advantage to the electric is that they are quiet enough that you can play them without bothering anyone else, and so you might be able to play more and get better quicker.

I like playing both electric and acoustic, but I don't live alone and so I can't play my acoustic just any time I want.  So my electric does tend to be my main "workhorse", though I make time to play the acoustic pretty much every day. 

Most of what you learn on one will work fine on the other, though there are (I feel) some differences in things like how much bow pressure it takes to get a good sound and some songs/pieces or techniques may sound better to you on one than the other and things like that. 

"This young wine may have a lot of tannins now, but in 5 or 10 years it is going to be spectacular, despite the fact that right now it tastes like crude oil. You know this is how it is supposed to taste at this stage of development." ~ Itzhak Perlman

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thanks for the replies.

 

I would like to get an acoustic violin but the only reason why I want to get an electric one is because of the ability to wear headphones while I practice.  I currently live with my GF and her brother and we live in a small apartment complex with paper thin walls. It would be nerve racking for everyone else for me to practice and sound awful! I've been watching fiddlerman's videos and think it's fantastic what he's doing.  Also watched his review of a few cheap violins and am unafraid of buying one for my first time.  

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jasiones said
...I have been wanting to learn the violin for about 5-7 years but was very scared to try because I always assumed you needed to learn at a young age in order to play it well.

Yep. I made that mistake also =) Learning now and am happy =)

 I am not very musically inclined, The last music instrument I played was a plastic flute in 4th grade (and honestly I didnt know what i was doing then)  I cant read sheet music, don't know notes and dont even know the anatomy of a violin.

Not a big deal, LOL! Hangout here for a while and You'll learn them all... and oter things that possibly You never thought existed, lmao =)

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Another alternative is the acoustic violin with a very heavy practice mute like this one:
http://fiddlershop.com/gold-pl.....-mute.html

Welcome to the forum. Try not to get discouraged too soon. The violin is a very difficult instrument but lots of fun when all goes your way. :-)

Look forward to hearing about your progress.

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"I would like to get an acoustic violin but the only reason why I want to get an electric one is because of the ability to wear headphones while I practice." 

If the acoustic is what you really want, then that is what you should go for. It could still be worth getting an electric for the ability to play late at night, if the mute doesn't work out for you for some reason (I don't know anything about mutes). But in that case I'd avoid spending much for the electric, since you basically need it as a "beater" to learn on.

You never know, though. When I first started, several months ago, I didn't have a lot of interest in acoustic violins. I'm usually more of an electric kind of person. But after getting to know them a little, I like acoustics quite well now. Which one I'll play (assuming people aren't trying to sleep or watch TV or something) all depends on which one I am in the mood for the sound and feel of.

I do have to say I have logged a lot more hours on my electric. Since I can play it any time and I usually just leave it lying on the kitchen table where I can pick it up and play any time the mood strikes me, it sees a lot of use. It hasn't seen the inside of it's gig-bag (a sort of cloth case) for months. LOL

"This young wine may have a lot of tannins now, but in 5 or 10 years it is going to be spectacular, despite the fact that right now it tastes like crude oil. You know this is how it is supposed to taste at this stage of development." ~ Itzhak Perlman

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DanielB said
"I would like to get an acoustic violin but the only reason why I want to get an electric one is because of the ability to wear headphones while I practice." 

If the acoustic is what you really want, then that is what you should go for. It could still be worth getting an electric for the ability to play late at night, if the mute doesn't work out for you for some reason (I don't know anything about mutes). But in that case I'd avoid spending much for the electric, since you basically need it as a "beater" to learn on.

You never know, though. When I first started, several months ago, I didn't have a lot of interest in acoustic violins. I'm usually more of an electric kind of person. But after getting to know them a little, I like acoustics quite well now. Which one I'll play (assuming people aren't trying to sleep or watch TV or something) all depends on which one I am in the mood for the sound and feel of.

I do have to say I have logged a lot more hours on my electric. Since I can play it any time and I usually just leave it lying on the kitchen table where I can pick it up and play any time the mood strikes me, it sees a lot of use. It hasn't seen the inside of it's gig-bag (a sort of cloth case) for months. LOL

Yea I dont know if the brass mute will work well enough for me (i dont want to buy an acoustic and have it be too noisy even with that) an Electric is really more desirable so i can practice whenever and where ever I want.  I fully intend to get an acoustic later on down the line (so i'd have two!) but as of now I know full well I won't get much practice time if i'm gonna have to practice when no one is home.  

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Fair warning!!  Violins are like potato chips!  You can never just have one! devil-violin LOL

 

Welcome to the forum, where experience is not necessary and there are plenty of folks here willing to lend a hand!  Looking forward to hearing from your experiences!

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EJKiszenia said
Fair warning!!  Violins are like potato chips!  You can never just have one! devil-violin LOL

 

Well said....lol

I can only add didos.  

I went acoustic because the electrics that were available to me locally seemed heavy and reminded me of the paddle that my father used on my rear end.  Also, I never wanted to worry about NOT having an amplifier, or batteries (If the violin used them).  Besides, I figured there were attachments I could buy later if I wanted to amplify or attenuate my acoustic.  However, I never worry about making noise anyway ;  my neighbors make enough noise for the whole neighborhood......if they complained it would be like the  .......... I forgot.......something about calling the kettle black.

Anyway,  just have fun and set some easy goals.....

It's a hobby for most of us, not a job.  concertina-4198

 

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