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Itachipollo
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Hi guys, first of all, I want to apologize for my english, It isnt my first language and since high school I did not practice so much.
My name is Pablo, I am 25 years old and I have a violin since 2 weeks ago, it is  a present of my girlfriend for our first anniversary, I had always talking to her about how much I want to learn to play violin and finally she bought it to me.
 I am very happy with it, i will try to do my best to improve my ear because i didn't  play an instrument since the flute when i was 12.
I know about this page when i was looking for a song to start with "Twinkle, twinkle  little star". I finally ended here and i was surprised about how many sheets you have here and video-tutorials which helps me a lot with my bow and how to grab it fine.
Today i had a problem, it's a little  noise that comes out when I play the 4th string . It's like a metallic noise... I changed all my strings and it continues there. Finally I noticed that it cames out of one of the fs when i touch it, it sounds like it was separated or something like that... I will try to go to the shop and see what can they tell me about that and how to fixed it.
Thanks to everyone, i hope continue learning whith all of you.
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Fiddlerman
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November 4, 2011 - 9:14 am
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Welcome to the forum Pablo.

Happy to hear that you are finally taking up your dream of playing the violin and that you found our site. Sounds like you have a great girl friend.

If the noise is not coming from the f-hole check the fine tuners carefully that all is securely fastened. Also check that the screws to the fine tuners are not screwed down so low that they are hitting the body of the instrument under the tailpiece.

We look forward to hearing about your progress and if you feel like it you can post regular videos to share with us and get advice.

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Itachipollo
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Thanks FM i have checked all this, i would upload a video of a demo about the noise.

My violin is a Palatino it cost around 89 euros… like 100$. It doesn't sound like the violins that i can heard from Youtube but I don't know for sure that it is all my fault or the violin too, over all the sound of the first string doesn't sound at all, It has improved a little and sounds better now than when i've just started. If the metallic noise dissapears soon I expect to show a little demo about me playing twinkle jajajaja and you cuold tell me whats wrong with me and If I have to change the strings or what. A lot of thanks to all of you.

Ps: Excuse me... my dogs all messing around jajajaja

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Check to make sure the locking/adjusting nut on your fine tuner isn't loose. 

Mine will buzz like that if not tightened down.

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Itachipollo
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I am not sure but I checked it and think that is not the problem, when I put my finger on the left f the noise dissapears, Do you think that the shop can check it and if it is a problem of manufacturing change it for another?? I had changed the E string twice cause I broke it jajajaja

 

ps: I am a enginner of mechanical but the violin structure gots me amazed

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I'm not sure you are doing a fair test.  Do you have a problem when you play with a bow ?

(Also, nice of you to post your location.  It's interesting to know where everybody lives.)

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Itachipollo
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Yes the first time i noticed that noise was "playing" with my bow, I almost take off all the things like chin rest or shoulder rest, changed all the strings and It still sounds like a vibration at the end of the note... I dont know If this has relation with the fact that my end button looks like it going to go away jajajaja 

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I wonder if the bass bar is loose or ill-fitted.dunno

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Hi Itachipollo and welcome 🙂

I am not sure if these pictures will help you.

http://www.andrewcarruthers.co...../index.htm

 

I can hear the noise when you push on the wood by the F holes, it sounds like wood squeaking to me from the video. I am not an expert though. Just trying to help.

Check those pictures and see if you have the bridge and strings like that.

If it is coming from inside, you may want to exchange the violin before the warranty runs out. (If it is a new violin.)

I have a cheap violin ($80 USD) and the wood by the F holes does not move like yours when I push on it, so I don't know if it should, or not.

On "Cheap eBay violins" … Just tell people they are like a Charlie Brown Christmas Tree.  With a little love, and some practice, they too can be made beautiful.

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Welcome to the forum Pablo! I have had similar issues and it was the fine tuner that was too loose. I never touched my violin like that and heard that noise before though. Sometimes wound strings will break where you don't know they're broke because they come unwound a bit. Sounds to me you like you should just bring your violin into the shop and get her fixed up. Post back what you find out, I'm curious. For sure it sounds like some part of your violin is not tightened up or even cracked somewhere?

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Hi, Pablo!! Welcome to the site!!!

That sound on your video is definitely strange. I checked my violin that way - no noises. I have (like almost all beginners) a cheap (~100$) one too dunno. Maybe visit to the shop is necessary in that case ... It's not normal even if that metallic sound was not caused by that.. who knows, maybe it increases because of?

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When we talk about the tuners we are talking about the fasteners under and above the tuners. They are hard to see sometimes. It also sounds like the string could be touching the fingerboard. The wood could be split where the f-hole is. Will the company that sent it to you accept an exchange?

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Thanks to all for the answers I will try everything that you tell me,
 the bridge can be the answer, I will give to the violin a chance and
If I could not fixed it in this weekend I will give it to my girlfriend to carry to the shop
 where she bought it.
 I am a novice in this matter but like I said before I am a mechanical expert
 and the tuner I think they are ok but the man on the shop will tell me… Thanks to all.
Ps: The bridge is in its position, i have checked it with my rule and it is centered
 and is in the position photos that you show me.
  Excuse me for my late answer but in Spain we have a difference of 5 or 6 hours.

 

Ps2: When I touched the string with my bow and it starts to sound the noise if I put my finger on the f hole the noise stops so I think that the problem got to be there… thanks all, seriusly you all are very kind to me

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Finally, the shop will change my violin,It is a good new since my girlfriend bought it one month ago but the shop does not have any right now, I have to wait but in this week will arrive. Thanks to all, I will give a try to the new one and wait that nothing more goes baddevil-violin

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