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Who likes Scottish fiddling over Irish?
I don't listen much to fiddling in general, but I prefer Scottish over Irish....
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I recently was motivated to compare Irish and Scottish fiddling. I had it in the back of my mind that I liked Scottish over Irish, but couldn't remember why, so I you tubed some of both. I think the two are quite different. Maybe it's the groove, the mood, or the mode, but Scottish turns my crank!

 

Disclaimer: I can't fiddle and don't know a lot about it, only what I hear. but if anyone else has the same preference, I'd like to hear about it. 

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The songs that "turn my crank" don't fit into any one category, they never have.  As a teen I listened to it all, except Bluegrass and Country didn't have access to it except for Andy Griffith.  I am learning everything I can that might be used at an Old Time, Gospel, Bluegrass jam

Here is a Scottish tune for you that I am trying to learn

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I haven't always been a fiddle  music fan.  ( I enjoy it now)  but I can tell you that I will listen to Vi Wickam any time.  I LOVE THAT GUY!!!!!!

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@Schaick  Thanks, that was some amazing playing on that video! When you say you are working on it, how close will you be able to come to that? Even half of that would be some great playing. your post says started May of 2013. Wouldn't it take years and years to play to the level of that video? .... just wondering.

as for what really turns my crank is progressive rock or jazz rock fusion. I'm old school and stuck in the 70's, but some examples would be Mahavishnu Orchestra, Jean Luc Ponty, Emerson Lake and Palmer....stuff like that.

 

@coolpinkone: you said you enjoy fiddle music now. What kind of violin/fiddle music do you play? Is Vi Wickam Scottish fiddle? 

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@bluesviolin LOL!!  No way to that level!!  I am close to having it memorized.  So..... slow but to the point someone would be able to recognize the tune.

The gentleman in the video http://www.vithefiddler.com/about/bio/

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@Schaick That sounds like a fun little tune! 

I'm currently going through and Irish fiddle music book in my lessons, but maybe I can find some Scottish fiddle tunes to learn along the way as well.

@bluesviolin  I've been taking lessons for 4 months now, and my teacher expects me to learn my fiddle tunes and get them up to speed. She'll test me by playing a tune up to speed and making me keep up with her. I'm not saying I can play like that guy at all (i know i can't, lol), but my teacher definitely pushes me.

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@damfino: No Pain, No Gain... as they say.lumpy-2134

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Hmmm, Scottish over Irish.... isn't that kinda like trying to choose a whiskey over a scotch?

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@Schaick: I have tackled some Irish tunes from the Complete Irish Fiddle Player and I agree with damfino, we perfect it (or try to) at slow speed and then go for it at the target speed.  I have found we definitely improve quickly.  I watched my first few u-tube videos of some Irish jigs and thought it was impossible how fast they played.  Here is one that I watched months ago and could not imagine playing, but can now do, how shall I describe it, faster than a slow march:

Swallowtail Jig lesson

I like the Scottish one above, also.  Keep working, it will come!

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@bluesviolin lol, I guess. Sometimes it leaves me feeling like I can't play as well as I should, but I guess it pushes me.

@intrepidgirl I'm going through the same book, and when I first popped in the play along CD I thought everything was so fast (when in reality it's so sloooow compared to how they should be, lol) and wondered how I'd ever play any of them at that tempo, let alone the full speed, lol. 

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bluesviolin I guess I am not sure what I call fiddle tunes over other tunes that I play.

here are the tunes I play that I call "fiddle". I don't know if they are Irish or Scottish.. Or more country folk fiddle.   It's all new to me in my violin journey this kind of music.

Old Joe Clark

Snowdeer

Drunken Sailor

SwallowTail Jig - Irish

Ashokan Farewell

Skyboat Song

Scarborough Fair 

Tennesee Waltz

Those are the songs I think as fiddle (folk) tunes.

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coolpinkone : Sorry I missed your post. Sometimes I have difficulty getting thru to Fiddle Talk.

If the above list are what you call fiddle tunes, I would be interested in seeing what your 'other' tunes are?

thanks, bv.

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