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Is that okay to learn jazz and blues without master the basic scale?
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zickler88
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I am not yet remember all the basic scales and looking forward to learn chromatic because the jazzy things.  Wait, am i right that jazz use lot of chromatic? Please correct me if im wrong.  

Then, I seen that chromatic use different index when determining the notes.  The finger position is totally different.  Again, am I right?

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Fiddlerman
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June 3, 2012 - 7:15 am
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Not sure if you use that much chromatic in jazz. Chromatic scales are practical for getting all notes in tune and for pieces such as the "The Flight Of The Bumble Bee". smile

I don't really understand your second question. Finger positions can differ depending on what note you start on and there are several different ways of playing the same chromatic scale as well. You can play a note with the first finger, slide it up a half step, play the next with the 2nd finger and slide it a half step then use the 3rd and 4rth right up against each other.
Or, you can play 0, 1, 2, 1, 2, 3, 4, 0
Shift after the 2nd finger so that the first is on the next half step. Keep the fingers very close.

Is it possible that you where referring to Dorian scales zickler88?

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zickler88
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Oh I see! thank you FM.

When I play jazz on guitar, there is a specific scale that meant to sound jazzy.  So, I assume the fundamental is similar.  But, sadly when I tried to sound jazzy on violin, I never get the tune.  

Okay, I think you had teach us about jazz on Jazz improvisation videos, better I look at those video first and then asking question again.  

Sorry, I think I need to study more before asking question, when I play violin I usually neglected the function of finger position. For example, I try to hit B notes on A string where the position needs to use D strings.  Need to master the shifting.

Thank you Pierre for the explanation.

Yes, I am referring to Dorian scales? Wow, you are psychic? you can read my mind. I never mentioned Dorian mode! HAha 

Another question, can you explain how the chromatic works and when to apply?  FYI, I have mastered the G chromatic from your videos.

When I play guitar, jazz is like another world to me. There is nonsense in jazz, the mix of basic scales.  But, my theory and understanding become more clearer when playing jazz.  Is jazz on violin is way out of my level?      

 

What a long explanation, thought and question.  Sorry FM!!! seriously, you have help me a lot. Not forget another lads in here. 

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Fiddlerman
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June 3, 2012 - 9:51 pm
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Chromatic scales are 12 tone scales that begin on a note and utilize equal half steps the whole way.
Can be used with any type of music. Can be used in similar situations as you use a slide going into a leading tone.

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Does a slide have a musical notation?

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Fiddlerman
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Yes, a line going from the note that you start from to the note where you end.

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