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Czardas
Help with fast parts
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mickmeloche
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February 22, 2017 - 10:22 pm
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cant seem to get bow and fingers to work together on the fast parts of this song. Now I'm obsessing over it. Need to see the fingering or hear it played slowly so I can try to play along. I don't know to make a video, but if I learn this, I will figure out how to post it. Thanks for any support you can give me.

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Elwin
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Well, here's all the advice I can give. Though I play a non-violin, this is true for any instrument. Take a metronome, set it to a lower tempo and then play it slower. Then gradually speed it up. I know Czardas is quite difficult, but practicing it slower should help.

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I'm with Elwin on this one. This past week, my teacher told me to never play a song faster than I could while thinking 3 or 4 notes ahead, and knowing what I was going to do next.  That's at least 3-4 times slower than normal on a new song, and possibly as much as 20 times slower on a fast, difficult piece.

Part of what you're supposed to do with the thinking ahead is figuring out the best way to handle problem areas like the ones you're describing.  Is it better to start higher up, so that all of that phrase can be played on one string, or better to stay lower, because you're going to need your fingers there for the bit after that? If you play things slow enough, you can generally figure out what works best (for you). It's just frustrating, because the music doesn't sound anything like the music you're trying to play. Once you have the problems sorted out and it's just practicing it, the speed will pick up a bunch.

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mickmeloche said
cant seem to get bow and fingers to work together on the fast parts of this song. Now I'm obsessing over it. Need to see the fingering or hear it played slowly so I can try to play along. I don't know to make a video, but if I learn this, I will figure out how to post it. Thanks for any support you can give me.  

Have you been playing for several years?  There are some significantly difficult (at least for me) parts to that piece  There's up bow staccato, there are significant position shifts and on top of that there's more to it than what's written on the page -- if you want it to sound right. I've been playing about 3 years and I would find that piece pretty daunting. 

A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. ~Herm Albright

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I've been playing almost 2 years, but I play every day and try to learn a new song every week.  I found an ap for my iPad that will play a you tube video, and let me slow it way down without changing the pitch.  It's been very helpful for this song. It will take allot of work but I really want this. I'll keep at it. I took three lessons, but my teacher got sick and is now in hospice not expecting to live through this week. 

 The iPad app is Snippz and you can repeat over and over the section of the song you're working on.    

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Fiddlerman
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February 27, 2017 - 1:03 pm
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Great tips for learning difficult pieces above. I agree that starting slowly and working up the tempo is the key. 🙂
Good luck with Czardas.

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