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Do you have a "how to" video on Double stops in Classical Music?
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QuicheLoraine
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I have the Schirmer's Bach Sonatas and Partitas for violin solo (BWV 1001-1006), and the double stops on some of the parts are...yikes! intimidating! Pretzel fingers! Do you have a video on the topic? 

I understand the concept, and certainly the more simple kind of double stops that one finds in Bluegrass I am familiar with, where rough around the edges a bit is acceptable, but I don't want to sound like an old country fiddler when playing a Bach sonata (:

Thanks in advance!   

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Any particular sonata in particular? I haven't done any videos on double stops yet. It's a good idea though.

Welcome to the forum BTW, QuicheLoraine

It would be nice if you felt like introducing yourself on our new Introduce Yourself forum. dancing

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Will do! Thank you!

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Oh, forgot! Sonata No. 1 in g minor, BWV 1001 would be fab, but if you have something more "beginner double stops" that would be fab! I suppose fingering is the key, but I'm a bit rusty (:

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You are referring to the Adagio, Fuga or maybe the Siciliano?

I guess you want to begin with the Adagio. The Fuga would require a long lesson.cool

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Here's a great book that I bought:

http://www.sheetmusicplus.com/.....in/3003188

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Ah, a Whistler book! I 'member those (: I am sure it is a good one! I'll have to check it out!

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It's funny how bach suits so many styles. I actually like the way Bach plays to jazz too. dancinbunny

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Barry said:

Hi Loraine ,

Im in Madison, what part of Nashville you from ?  Ive noticed a funny trend in people who play fiddle music, a lot seem drawn to Bach, myself included. Youve been playing quite a while I see, Im just in my 3rd year myself.

Welcome aboard!!

Thank you!

Good you didn't leave us!

Barry, we live in the same area- ha! I am embarrassed to say where exactly I live (like you couldn't guess- ha!), but I'm literally 300 yards away from the bluff, and can see the barges from my porch (;

So what kind of fiddle music do you like to play? Do you play by ear/and or read music? I collect tunes (:

My husband and eight year old son are interested in learning to play the violin, and it was my husband who found Fiddlerman's videos on YouTube (:     

 For several years I didn't play and couldn't afford a violin, and honestly, I think had I played the entire time, I might have avoided the severe depression I suffered from, or at least would have overcame it sooner. I bought my current violin in 2008, the same year I overcame a decade of depression, and playing violin has been an almost daily thing since. 

I love Bach! He was a violinist, and there does seem to be some magical quality in his compositions that attracts violin players and musicians of all genres (: 

@fiddlerguy- your comment reminded me of Django Reinhardt and Stephane Grappelli's version of Bach's Concerto for Two Violins (BWV 1043)- fabulous Gypsy jazz rendition!    

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Fiddlerman said:

You are referring to the Adagio, Fuga or maybe the Siciliano?

I guess you want to begin with the Adagio. The Fuga would require a long lesson.cool

The Adagio seems like the more simpler of those, but I think even an "in general", introduction video on double stops would be helpful, with a simpler piece. My Schirmer book doesn't have the fingering notation which is I think part of the problem (2nd, 3rd, position, etc.), especially those 4 note ones (!) with different positions, that, and of course the bowing technique is important. I cannot remember which video, but you had one where you were playing several double stops in succession...I'll have to find it, but I remarked to my husband- "I need to learn how to do THAT" (:     

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Barry said:

well the river is my backyard. I live on Rio Vista and if you do too then that leaves only a couple places  coffee2

You are across Old Hickory Blvd. from me (: Nifty to have a fiddling neighbor! 

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QuicheLoraine said:

I love Bach! He was a violinist, and there does seem to be some magical quality in his compositions that attracts violin players and musicians of all genres (: 

@fiddlerguy- your comment reminded me of Django Reinhardt and Stephane Grappelli's version of Bach's Concerto for Two Violins (BWV 1043)- fabulous Gypsy jazz rendition!

   

Welcome QuicheLoraine!  This Bach Concerto is an example for counterpoint.

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It just goes to show you how small the world can be sometimes.

I was going to do the video today QL, but I felt guilty about hardly making any Violaman videos so I made some today. Also have a time consuming gig this week.

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No problem, and no hurry Pierre, seriously (: I understand. Violas deserve equal attention, as does a gig. As I said in the Introduction thread, I have plenty I can brush up on in the meantime, and a surplus of choices (genres, tunes by ear/ music notation) (;

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Check out these fantastic exercises for developing independence for great double stops and better intonation as well.

Sevcik, Ottakar – Preparatory Exercises
in Double Stopping

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Fiddlerman said:

Check out these fantastic exercises for developing independence for great double stops and better intonation as well.

Sevcik, Ottakar – Preparatory Exercises
in Double Stopping

Thank you, Pierre! I will definitely spend some time with the book! My intonation on single notes, no prob, but yeah, it is tricky with double stops esp. in anything other than first position- pretzel fingers. I just need to practice and be persistent (: 

Much appreciated! 

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