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This is doing my brain in big time.

The piece of music I'm looking at has two notes to be played at the same time. Problem is they are both on the same string. On the E string, it has it as B and G notes together. Is this a case of playing one of those notes high on the A string and the other on the E string? If that's the case, no thank you! My fingers just aren't there yet.  In this scenerio, what would you do? Do you stay on one string but just pick one of the notes to play or... ?  dunno

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Are you reading it right, that sounds impossible. The higher stop will be the only note heard

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If it was played on the same string wouldn't that qualify as a single stop?

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I guess they are on different strings. ? . B on E and G on A. If You shift to IIIrd position, then your 2nd finger on E string can play B and 4th finger on A - G. =) I would do it that way. But if someone knows how to make it on one string - i'll be glad to know duncecap =)

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It can't be a double stop if it is on only one string. perhaps if you can post a sample of the music we can decipher it. And yes, I often have trouble deciphering complex music. It can be very tricky.

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Mad Wed said it perfect.

What song is it spork? You could just try playing a double by playing a B note on the A string and a G note on the E string all in first position.

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Could be forth position first finger  b on the e string and third finger g on the a string.

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The song is My Immortal ~ Evanescence... the easy version, lol. In all honesty, other than the double stops it has, its super simple!

I think ya'll are right about two diff strings, but I was sure hoping not. Yesterday, I decided to go with just one of the notes, instead of both (cause my fingers aren't ready yet) and it didn't sound awful. It was missing something, though. Guess its time to work on those. 

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I am curious, would like FM imput on this. Sometimes there are so many post that they get lost before they run there course.  Several times I have had to revitalize a post to insure it gets the attention it deserves. And I dont just mean Mine.

Wonder if there is a way to increase the list of recently posted post?

or maybe a way to back page post. cheers

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Well Spork that is a song written with the piano.

On a string instrument what you do is quickly play 2 notes in the same beat. Bounce your fingers back and forth... Think Eddie Van Halen...

http://www.youtube.com/v/ULEBSxP725w

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It can be done easily in either 3rd or 4th possition of course as a double stop on the A and E string. Either the 2nd and 4th finger or the 1st and 3rd. Depends mostly on what comes before and after as to which you should choose.

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Hello. I was wondering the same thing... how can someone play 2 notes on the same string at the same time with the following examples: Johannes Brahms - Hungarian Dance 1, 5, Violin Concerto in D major Op.77 3rd mvt.). In everyone of those pieces you can find this issue here and there. So the only way to do things is by changing possitions? I''m asking this again because there are several different answers in this topic. Thank you! Oh, and, sorry to butt in like this, I'm new around here.

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Butt away!
We all do it, lol.

Helps to keep the articles going.

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BogdanB said
Hello. I was wondering the same thing... how can someone play 2 notes on the same string at the same time with the following examples: Johannes Brahms - Hungarian Dance 1, 5, Violin Concerto in D major Op.77 3rd mvt.). In everyone of those pieces you can find this issue here and there. So the only way to do things is by changing possitions? I''m asking this again because there are several different answers in this topic. Thank you! Oh, and, sorry to butt in like this, I'm new around here.

First of all... A proper WELCOME to the family... hope you find everything you're looking for and more. We're all here in the same boat and very helpful if not amusing with much of the comedy that filters in and out.

 

Now to answer your question... As a beginner myself I can't possibly agree that violin music will have a double stop played on the same string...after all a double stop is defined as playing two simultaneous notes on 2 different stings. If you see piano music like referenced above, it can have two notes being played seemingly like a double stop but it won't be on the SAME string and it won't be in a 'chord' fashion either thus it would more qualify as a trill. FM is very knowledgable since he does this for a living so his word is pretty much the gospel around here.

I would suggest expanding your understanding to include more than one string and since they do overlap (meaning one note on a lower string can be the same note on the next depending on finger position) you have an almost unlimited availability of notes to be played in the double stop method as long as the strings next to each other are the ones being played, although some would be quite a finger exercise in dexterity! In normal violin playing that would be the only pre-requisite, 2 strings next to each other.

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I think BogdanB meant same "strings"
Anyway. Yes often you must use positions. Sometimes you need to shift positions on each note as well. Scan in any example, post it here, and I'll be happy to give you the solution. I find myself with less available time now a days, lot's of gigs right now, not complaining, to dig up the music and see about the examples that you are referring to.
Welcome to the forum by the way BogdanB 🙂
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Just for fun, can someone post a video from anywhere of a double stop on one string ?

No big deal as I am already preoccupied with getting one note out of one string.

Did I miss it ?

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My guess is that Sporksies is looking at two note's on the same "note stem" and maybe seeing them as being on one string.

Just a guess though....dunno Thank the Lord they're not triple stops.  violin-student

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Glad to hear you have plenty of work to do FM, and thanks for the new smileys.bananabananadancingdancing

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Well... It's possible to do double stop in 1 string lol....

 

For example your Immortal - Evanesscence. B + G in E string right?

 

Call your friend... 1 play B, 1 play G => E string

 

=>>>> Seems legit?

 

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roflol around here the phone service is such that we'd have such a long delay in transmission that it'd sound like a reverb unit. LOL

 

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