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E string not producing sound on up bow
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I just purchased my first violin this past weekend and have been trying to learn as much as I can the past few days and am currently just working on producing a good constant sound on the open strings. 

With that being said I am a little lost as to why I can not get my E string to produce any sound on the up bow when I don't have a problem producing sound on the down bow.

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Do you have enough rosin on your bow!

Search 'rosin' here for more info, and FM has a video tutorial on it.

Also check his 'bow hold' tutorial, it could also be pressure related

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Rosin and add a little more weight on the bow? I agree with Terry it sounds like you did not apply enough rosin, if your bow came "virgin" be ready to spend a good 10 min applying rosin.

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As far as being pressure related I have tried applying less pressure and more pressure, neither seem to have any effect.

I don't believe it would be a rosin issue, I had initially thought it was a rosin issue and applied some more but that did not help either.  Also if it was a rosin issue wouldn't I have the same problem with a down bow as well? Or on other strings?

It is also a brand new violin and bow.  I did make sure I roughed up the surface of the rosin and spent a good bit of time applying rosin the first time, and reapply each time I play.

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if there is sound on down bow, there should be on up bow! check the angle maybe? post a video if you can FM could give it a look?

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Use a flashlight to check the feet of the bridge to see if they are making good contact.

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springer said
Use a flashlight to check the feet of the bridge to see if they are making good contact.

Yep.

Coud be also a problem with the string or the the bow. Wild thing: turn the bow up side down and check. If sound disappears on down bow now - then problem with the bow (hair, rosin), if it's still upbow then it could be string or bridge or nut.dunno

 

Welcome to the forum, btw!

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If you can get a good sound on the down bow but not the up bow it is most likely a pressure issue. If you don't get enough sound on the up bow you need to focus on more pressure and not less.
Other things, not mentioned above, would be to check your contact point between the bridge and fingerboard. It is possible that you play far away from the bridge whenever you take an up-bow and closer on a down bow. Are the hairs on the bow flat when you play up-bow?
Good luck on working it out.

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Thanks all for the advice, seems that it was a rosin issue after all, I went back and applied a healthy portion to my bow and it played fantastic after that.  My rosin is still fairly new and has a dip in the center of it (kind of like a crater if you can imagine that) so its only contacting my bow at the edges of the rosin.  Now to continue with my practice laugh

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I'm happy it's fixed, have a fine practice!violin_girl

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Andy! are you using a light colored rosin,  if so you might want to change to a good quality dark rosing, I did and like it much better. FM has the good stuff. Good luck.drummercoffee

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There are very good quality light rosin, dark is not better just for different climate (usually dry) or depending on what sound you want to achieve. When I bough a good quality rosin from FM it was night and day compared to my cheap one coming qith the case.

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