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Ferret
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A two part question on the same issue. And it's asked in the context of playing in public.

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When playing, if you play a note that is a 'bit off', do you correct it. It's just that your intonation is a tad wrong, do you correct it if time allows? At times all it requires is a small slide or even just a roll of the finger, do you let it go or fix it?

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When playing, you hit the 'wrong' note. Do you 'replay it correctly' or just carry on and hope that no one noticed?

Your thoughts appricieaicated hats_off

Seen it all. Done it all. Can't remember most of dunno ..... What was I saying???? facepalm

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Fiddlerman
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May 7, 2014 - 7:22 am
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1) Correct it in the most musical way possible.
2) Never replay a note on a performance. If you are practicing, redo that passage 100 times the right way :-)

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but the one who needs the least."

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Here's my 2 cents (not sure if it's worth more in Australia):

1) If it's only a bit off, fix it, but-

2) -if it's off enough it sounds like it could work, go with it and pretend you're improvising. And as FM said, practice it 100 times until you don't make the mistake again.

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1) Fix it as fast as i can (if i can, LOL!)
2) Continue playing, blushing, forgetting other notes, but continuing!

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I'd like to think if I was in public and I messed up I'd handle the situation just like Eric Cartman. I'd throw my violin to the ground in a fit and leave. red_cursing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z99iVXJ8OtA

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Vibrato is your best friend :)

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Oliver said

Vibrato is your best friend http://fiddlerman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

roflol @Oliver

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Hman said

I'd like to think if I was in public and I messed up I'd handle the situation just like Eric Cartman. I'd throw my violin to the ground in a fit and leave.

@Hman
I never thought of that one. Good strategy http://fiddlerman.com/wp-content/forum-smileys/rofl.gif

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play it till you hate it..... but....

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most people wouldnt notice..some that did may think it was supposed to sound that way...you and the other guy that caught it, well, it'll be your little secret
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I'll tell you something that one of my main music profs told me, Ferret.

"There are no wrong notes in Jazz.. Only brilliant improvisation."

Another thing I was told early on was that if you mess up a note when improvising, like miss and hit one that really *klangs* instead of the nice one you had in mind? Do it again! And then do it again!

See, if you do it only once, or even twice.. Well it might have been a mistake. But 3 times?? Had to be on purpose. Probably something you rehearsed special and were just waiting for the right moment to show off. Rather than admit that maybe they just weren't cool enough to understand it, people are more likely to try and cover their butt and pretend they "got it". "Oh wow.. That was awesome. Wild stuff, man.."

http://fiddlerman.com/wp-content/forum-smileys/rofl.gif

Ok, you may figure that was joking, and it kinda was. But only kinda. When you're eplaying in front of people and you botch a note, you have nothing to lose and everything to gain by just trying to work it in and acting like it was maybe one of the coolest little tricks from your private collection.

Always try to make it work or work it in. Never stop, since it will just draw more attention to it.

If your intonation on a note is a little off, yeah, correct it. But either do the correction very fast, or do it on the beat.

Now you might say "But I wasn't improvising". Well, there's a few thoughts to consider with that.

1.) (my personal favorite) You are NOW!

2.) Actually all playing contains improvisation to some degree. Even when you think you are playing strictly by the book, if you used some software to score what you play as you play it, you'd see that especially on the timing what you are playing is usually a lot more complex than the few dots on the score. To write out what you're actually doing would probably take dotted 128th notes/rests and all kinds of other bad craziness. Especially when it's sounding pretty good.

So I'd basically agree with Barry and Panda. But I'd especially agree with Grofica. Great quote/pic there, and words to live by.

(During practice is another matter. But you specifically were asking about performance, so the best thing to do in practice does not apply.)

"This young wine may have a lot of tannins now, but in 5 or 10 years it is going to be spectacular, despite the fact that right now it tastes like crude oil. You know this is how it is supposed to taste at this stage of development." ~ Itzhak Perlman

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Fiddlerman
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Exactly!!!
Play it with passion. I love it. Thanks Grofica.

Also, very true what Barry wrote - I had a small pop group many many years ago that was playing quite frequently at parties, events, conventions.... and when I played well I knew that I played well but when I made mistakes, attempting to describe where I messed up and what I did turned out to be more effort than just keeping it to myself. LOL

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