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hey guys!

I swear i haven't totally disappeared off this site! I just haven't been able to post anything in a while. its been quite hectic for me lately but i am still checking in and seeing whats going on before i go to bed! How's everyone doing???

I do have an actual learning question for you all. As I am playing i have noticed that my ability to hear the right notes seems to fade the longer i play. I dunno if its a combination of focusing to hard on sheet music and my muscles getting tired or what. I'll usually start out with good in notation but by the end of the session i seem to be relying on a tuner to verify i'm playing correctly. Could learning to relax my left hand more play a part? Any tips and strategies? 

 

I'm almost done with EE2000 book 1. But i've found by going back through the pages before i finish( cause i won't lie, i'm stuck on staccato right now) , a lot of the pieces are easier, and that i've forgotten a lot of the pieces so its fun to 'learn' them again. I've also started using scales a bunch more to get used to string crossings and such. As i get further along i have come to notice that scales really do help prepare for pieces to be played!  Its been such a rewarding pastime even if it doesn't get nearly the time it deserves! 

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Hello Hello...

I am pretty good. Thank you.  Nice to see you.  I don't have a lot of help for your question. But it is nice to see you here.

I still work 45% of my playing with a tuner and I stop and go back to the play the note until I get it right... I am not the most orthodox of students.   I  have thrown in a teeny bit of scale work here and there.

Just wanted to say hello!  dancing

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rockinglr33 said
As I am playing i have noticed that my ability to hear the right notes seems to fade the longer i play.

It's interesting what you've said about hearing ability fading during practice.  I wonder whether your violin is very loud.  Beyond that question I can't think of a way to address that particular problem.

But I can give you a tip that quite a few people don't seem to know.  Open strings will give a sympathetic vibration when other strings are played.  For example the open G string should ring when you play G accurately on the D string, and the D string should ring big-time when you play D accurately on the G string.  You can have a pitch reference that way whenever you play G, D, A, or E.  If you don't hear it, it may be due to bad strings or a pretty bad violin or an electric violin.  You can find demos on youtube by searching for "tonalization".

If you like scales, you might love arpeggios.  Those are great for intonation.  It's good that you're paying close attention to intonation.  It's a major mistake to neglect it. "Learn to enjoy the simple things" is a good slogan.

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@coolpinkone  Glad i'm not the only one who uses a tuner for a good bit :D lol. I'm glad you popped into say hello :D  

 

@RosinedUp  Thanks! i've been trying that. I think as i play i start to tense my left hand which makes it harder to hit the notes consistently. I'll definitely look into apreggios! could be a lot of fun!!!

 

I think i'd better slow down and just work a bit more on scales and just listening soley to the sound, and not focusing on sheet music. I might be  trying to do to many things at once, and stepping back to basics is never a bad thing!!! I tried playing one of the songs i had memorized and i seem to do better that way, playing in tune that is, then when i read it off the sheet music. All just tweaking i believe. oh the growing pains of learning!! :D  

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Howdy ,

Might be a matter of yer left wrist straighteng out as yer playing longer , nned to play in front of a side mirror and have a look ...see if yer wrist remains bent as it should be while playing ....could be or maybe not but thought it might be worth a look ..violin-1267Have fun   Be happy

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rockinglr33 said
@RosinedUp  Thanks! i've been trying that. I think as i play i start to tense my left hand which makes it harder to hit the notes consistently. I'll definitely look into apreggios! could be a lot of fun!!!

You're welcome, rockin'.  Happy playing.

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@rockinglr33 yes... I  like to use the tuner.  I do play often without it as I go into my room and grab my violin and bow and go to another room to play that doesn't have my music stand and tuner.  

Juan Fiddler helped me with Thaxted by reminding me to play the scale.  I was not flatting the B on the G-string. So I was thankful and feel better.  I don't dare put the tuner next to my submission for the project... if it is a note or two off, I won't kill myself.. but anything more.. I might jump of the bridge.   :)

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September 26, 2014 - 7:35 am
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rockinglr33, glad to see you back,

I think, as with most things in life, our muscles get tired after a while. Not only your arms and hands but your ears and your brain. Do you take breaks? Perhaps you should schedule regular breaks in your practice schedule. Even if the physical parts of you are fine, your brain, for good concentration, and ears for registering pitches, might need it.

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