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rockinglr33
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September 27, 2013 - 1:48 pm
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hey ya'll,

Well I've been working on learning the notes on the G string according to FM's video (very helpful by the way) and i have become frustrated with it because i continually miss the notes, I'll be somewhat close but still to flat usually. Well I switched to the D string and low and behold I hit every note (e, f#, g) almost every single time. I was amazed with myself. I went back and forth a few times and i have found that my intonation on the, i guess, higher strings is way better. now i do have hearing loss  so that might be a factor so I guess my question is:

does anyone else have this problem? and any ideas on how to work on the strings that you have problems with? 

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I haven't had that problem, although Lord knows I've hit more than my share of flat notes!  But what I've been doing is I have all the major scales recorded, so I practice while listening to the correct notes on the recording.  I think it's helping to train my ear to hit the notes correctly.

Oh, also check your tuning.  On my first violin for some reason the G always seemed to go out of tune - made practicing intonation a little difficult.

There are a lot of folks here with a lot more experience that I have , I'm sure someone will have good suggestions for you :-)

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September 28, 2013 - 9:39 am
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The problem is your reach rockinglr33. To play on the G string you have to bring your elbow under the violin a slight bit more. Perhaps leave your elbow there a bit more even for the other strings though there are players that have a different elbow angle for each string. I advocate having the elbow under at the location that you can comfortably play on the G and not moving the elbow too much after that because of the technique that will probably come later for playing up in higher positions. Less movement is better but bringing the elbow under too much can cause pain for some people. If you feel uncomfortable doing it, ease off a bit. With time it will stretch easily and comfortably.

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Thank you both so much for your answers. I'm sorry its taken me so long to reply. it's been super busy at work. any who...

 

Ginny: Thank you. i have noticed that my G seems to always be slightly out of tune in the beginning but usually holds after i tune it, it seem a bit looser though then the other strings so might have a problem there. 

 

FM: After trying yet again you nailed it on the head.  Though i couldn't hold it very long bringing my elbow under more defiantly helped alot! I have noticed from that, that i have some posture problems that I'm working on and I have already felt an improvement in the ease of playing and less tension in my body as a whole. Now if only i could get those muscles to grow stronger faster I'd be doing great.  😀 Until then short but sweet practices it is. Thank you so much for your help! one of these days I'll be good enough and confidant enough to post a video for critisizieing. lol. until then lots of practice!

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rockinglr33 said

bringing my elbow under more defiantly helped alot!

Ah, well, I think a little attitude is not always such a bad thing.  Sounds like maybe you have some of that angry-violinist thing going on!  Would you say that classical solos are your favorite genre?   crossedfingerssmile

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RosinedUp said

Ah, well, I think a little attitude is not always such a bad thing.  Sounds like maybe you have some of that angry-violinist thing going on!  Would you say that classical solos are your favorite genre?

 

 

well I would account some of that to my bad spelling, but i would say i have my fare share of anger for sure lol, i really love those classical solos though :) muh hahahahaha. And i can say it the violin helps center me and bring me back to a state of calm when i need a moment to just forget everything. being away from my hubby and dealing with a lot of things, its nice to have something to focus on. Sadly im not near good enough to preform said solo's but maybe someday :D  

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Glad that it helped. :)

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Holla for the short practices due to weak muscles! *flex*

 

Intonation seems to haunt most violinists. Just do what I'm doing: train your ear and trust in the powers of muscle memory, and the only way to do that is be consistent and have enough fun that you lose yourself a little bit. Time is a newbie's best friend, padawan.

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