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KindaScratchy
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March 6, 2013 - 10:00 pm
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I had an interesting and helpful experience while I was practicing tonight. Maybe others already do this, but thought I'd share it in case it might be helpful to someone else.

I was practicing a Natalie MacMaster tune and playing along with the recording using an iPod speaker unit. I sensed that my intonation was off because I couldn't hear the recording well enough over my own playing, so I switched to using earbuds. When I use earbuds, I usually only put one in one ear but, for some reason, this time I put the buds in both ears.

The effect was really interesting. The recording drowned out the sound of my violin and it felt like I was the one playing what I was hearing. It was really cool to feel like I was playing as well as Natalie MacMaster.

At that point, I wasn't concerned with intonation because I couldn't hear myself, but instead I was focused on how my bowing felt. It seemed like I was able to bow more smoothly by imitating the recording.

Then, I took one earbud out and played it again, this time paying attention to intonation and later it played it without the recording. It seemed to me that my playing improved overall...both intonation and bow technique.

Does anyone else practice this way? Am I just late to the party? dunno

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March 6, 2013 - 10:12 pm
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Thats great Diane. I do that with you tube vids and my suzuki books. You will improve for sure that way.

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If im am learning a song and have a recording of it then I always play with ear buds piping in the tune to my ears. I find I am able to get up to speed, play smoother and more accurate, and able to memorize it quicker if I practice that way, its kinda a faux duet.

My instructor has pointed out a few times that I am a good copier, so only faux duets, real duets, and ensembles for now.

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I have experienced this state> It was as if I was right there with the tune. One of those special moments it was for me >> keeps me going. And I can duplicate that moment by putting the earphones on> Don't know if that is bad or good but it feels neat.

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KindaScratchy said
Am I just late to the party? 

Pardon me, what party?dazed

peanut_gallery said
with ear buds piping in the tune to my ears. I find I am able to get up to speed, play smoother and more accurate

Thank you both Diane and PG for sharing. I will have to try it at some point, but it sounds very interesting.

I feel a need for revising my method of learning so this is something that might be very helpful.

Thanks again.

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Hi Diane

That would be beyond my skills ATM

If I where to play without hearing myself, the folks next door wood be hammering on 'my' door.

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Seen it all. Done it all. Can't remember most of dunno ..... What was I saying???? facepalm

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There's a certain logic to it, KindaScratchy.  I'd say that what you are doing is practising the mechanics of the bowing separate from the fingering/intonation.  Since the bowing movements are also a part of playing the song, it seems reasonable that can contribute to getting the piece down better. 

I have never tried practising that way, but it sounds interesting.  Maybe even fun.

 

@Ferret: Well, you have an electric, as I recall.  The neighbors would have to have pretty sharp hearing to hear an unamplified electric. 

Or fold a bit of tissue or take a slice of soft sponge and tuck it between the strings and the end of the fingerboard.  Not too tight, just enough to damp the strings and stop the vibration.  Too tight and you might actually get a note or harmonic.  Even on an acoustic, I doubt you'd get much more sound than perhaps a soft squeak with that. 

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Daniel,

 

I will have to try that trick with the paper. My daughter is always telling me I can't play because I will wake the baby (future violinist) up.

Duane

 

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Fiddlerman
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March 8, 2013 - 11:04 pm
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I had an interesting and helpful experience while I was practicing tonight. Maybe others already do this, but thought I'd share it in case it might be helpful to someone else.

I was practicing a Natalie MacMaster tune and playing along with the recording using an iPod speaker unit. I sensed that my intonation was off because I couldn't hear the recording well enough over my own playing, so I switched to using earbuds. When I use earbuds, I usually only put one in one ear but, for some reason, this time I put the buds in both ears.

The effect was really interesting. The recording drowned out the sound of my violin and it felt like I was the one playing what I was hearing. It was really cool to feel like I was playing as well as Natalie MacMaster.

At that point, I wasn't concerned with intonation because I couldn't hear myself, but instead I was focused on how my bowing felt. It seemed like I was able to bow more smoothly by imitating the recording.

Then, I took one earbud out and played it again, this time paying attention to intonation and later it played it without the recording. It seemed to me that my playing improved overall...both intonation and bow technique.

Does anyone else practice this way? Am I just late to the party? dunno

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but the one who needs the least."

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I feel that way even when I play those midi files.

Duane

 

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