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Jazz improvisation for violin part 2
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Fiddlerman
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June 8, 2011 - 12:00 am
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After learning your minor dorian scales begin to experiment with random patterns. Create your own patterns and learn them inside out in as many different key signatures as possible. Practice slowly to begin with then work up the tempos. Experiment playing different rhythms for your patterns and when possible playing with friends or recordings. Practice with your favorite jazz recordings whenever possible and expect to crawl before you can run. Sometimes long and slow notes and rhythms are more appropriate than quick and flashy ones.
Enjoy jamming!!!!

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How's chances for a (slow) demo of the jazz improvisation(s) against a recorded backup of a jazz session?

If I were to improvise just on my own I would attempt to simply follow the chord patterns of the song.  So, isn't what you call "key signature" really only an expansion of a chord which might apply for only a few bars at a time?

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Fiddlerman
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June 8, 2011 - 8:14 am
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I think I understand what you want me to do and that would not be a problem. I am not sure what kind of recorded jazz that I am allowed to post on YouTube though. I don't have any rights to any pre-recorded jazz tracks. I'll have to give that one a thought. Maybe I can get permission from one of the Jazz lessons tracks sellers to use their tracks as a demo. They could in turn make some good sales.

When I talk about learning the patterns in as many key signatures as possible I am referring to what would allow you to play with most any tracks. The key signature that I used for this video is D minor dorian. I would then theoretically want to practice the exact same pattern in 15 conventional keys, though 3 of them are principally the same except have flats or sharps, see circle of fifths. You should probably not bother with more than 8 common keys.

When you improvise you will follow the chord progressions (with-in the key) but can play any of the notes in that key. You can even play notes that are not in that key but leading to key notes. For example, one can play a quick chromatic scale (all notes included) to the base note in the key. You could keep the arpeggio from the chord in your mind and choose those notes to emphasize. (arpeggios are mostly notes from the chord) The problem when trying to teach jazz is that even though there are rules, there are no rules. Anything goes.

Hope that I cleared some things up instead of making it more confusing. Embarassed

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http://www.pgmusic.com/salesfaq1.htm#22

I have to think that pro musicians generally ignore Band in a Box but whatever is created by the user is free of any copyright restrictions.

Maybe this would be of some utility for various of your demo purposes.

And BIAB can toss out tunes non-stop with just a few keystrokes.

I could create something for a jazz demo and convert it to MIDI for your use.

The YouTube issue is copyright, yes ?  No other problem ?

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Fiddlerman
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Maybe it's time for me to play around with BIAB 🙂

Thanks Oliver

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Fiddlerman, in BIAB, check out these from the styles menu :

Jazz

-- Jazz [Swing][168]

 

...then in RHS pane, you have :

----J_DJANG2 and

----J_DJANGO

 

....for some Django guitar accompaniment. Tone is reasonable, the rhythm is great !

 

Jim

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Fiddlerman
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May 2, 2012 - 11:29 pm
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I would but I don't have it. It's not that cheap either. Can you export a file for me Jim?afro

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That's a good vid, Fiddlerman! Well explained, too. I will run through that again a few more times.

 

Sorry, I missed your previous post. Sure I can export something - just tell me the chords, tempo and time sig, eg, Sweet Georgia Brown would be something like :

 

mm=80

4/4

E7 E7 E7 E7

A  A  A  A

D7  D7  D7  D7

G  G  G  G    etc     ....

 

....here's a small sample of one of my own tunes. The fiddling is a bit wacky, as I was just testing the water :) ... but you should be able to hear to guitar OK.

 

http://worldfiddlemusic.com/gu.....le1969.mp3

 

Mr Jimdancing

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Fiddlerman
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October 9, 2012 - 3:37 pm
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Nice style Jim. I love it.

Thanks for the post.

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Maybe Mr. Quist would loan us a track.

http://www.jamtracksmania.com/.....abel/2-5-1

Links to a Bossa Nova track, my lame, backhanded way of making a request...

Music is your own experience, your own thoughts, your wisdom. If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn. They teach you there's a boundary line to music. But, man, there's no boundary line to art. Charlie Parker

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This is great stuff. Thanks for the link.

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