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Ferret
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I have noticed that my teacher's violin is often covered in rosin dust and the same goes for many other violins that I see.

My question is, why doesn't my violin get covered in dust. I've been trying a number of rosins lately so it's not likely to be the rosin type. I haven't had to clean the top of my violin for ages.

Is it that I'm not using enough? dunno

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It is possible.  How does it sound?  Do you get a lot of "whispering" while you are playing?  Also they could be using too much.  Some people like to use a lot of Rosin for the extra grip and, in theory, faster response time.  I don't think it is a problem that you are not having to clean the top of your violin very often but I could be wrong...It's been known to happen :)

 

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lol, consider yourself lucky...we violinists actually never like rosin dusts..

the problem actually is having rosin dust, lol.

it causes allergic reaction, and it will also dry up and you will have troubles removing it.

i use a dark rosin that doesn't dust much, it's been weeks since I also haven't cleaned the top of my violin.

many violinists search for rosin that grips better but also doesn't leave dust much, so, seriously...consider yerself lucky

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The hair on the bow is dirty.  I put the violin in the case and leave the bow sitting on the music stand.  The dust & rosin creates a grime imbedded in the hair.  The grime prevents the rosin from spraying off the hair when playing and landing on the instrument.  Instead, it just piles up on the string.

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I don't think there is anything wrong with using a bit less rosin than some folks.  If you weren't using enough to make a good sound, I think your teacher would have told you about it.  Nathan Milstein, for example, is said to have used very little rosin, and I've never heard anyone say he didn't sound good.

I don't get a lot of rosin dust on my instruments either.  I don't put a lot of rosin on my bow.  Two strokes in warm weather, maybe three when it is cold and dry, if it didn't feel like it had quite enough.  Then I tap the stick with my fingers to get rid of any loose rosin dust before playing. 

I wipe down my acoustic violin when I am done playing with a scrap of black silk.  There usually isn't enough rosin dust on the instrument to even show on the black cloth. 

I also do something that may be a bit different than some folks.  I wipe down the bow hair with a paper towel when I am done playing for the day/night, and wipe the stick down with the same scrap I use for the violin.  I started doing that fairly early on after the first time I figured out I needed to vacuum my case to get rid of rosin dust from the bow because it was getting all over the inside of the case and on my violin.  I also figure that wiping it clean and applying new rosin every time is a way to be reasonably sure I am using about the same amount of rosin every time.

That's just the way I do things though, not saying it is great or suggesting you should.  But I also use less rosin than some folks seem to, and I don't end up with much, if any, on my instruments.  So hey, at least you are not alone in not ending up with a lot of rosin dust on the top of the violin from playing.

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Sounds to me like you are using too little rosin. My first thoughts were that you were using a low dust type of rosin like the D'Addario's rosins but you mentioned that you are testing different rosins.
You might not be using as much bow pressure either.
Try as an experiment to apply way too much rosin so you feel real friction on the hair while applying. The only thing you need fear is to have to wipe off the excess rosin off your violin. You can whip the bow in the air being very careful not to hit anything to get some loose rosin off before testing. This will give you the opportunity to check that you have had enough rosin on your bow. You may get a shock at the friction difference when using ample rosin on the hairs. Or it might be the same for you which would only mean that you are fine and should consider yourself lucky for not getting that rosin build up.

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I have noticed in the past couple of month's (since winter set in) that I don't have the heavy build-up of rosin on my string's. Must be due to the temp. and humidity. I dont have to clean the top of the violin as much as before. I'm still applying the rosin the same as alway's.

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Fiddlestix said

I have noticed in the past couple of month's (since winter set in) that I don't have the heavy build-up of rosin on my string's. Must be due to the temp. and humidity. I dont have to clean the top of the violin as much as before. I'm still applying the rosin the same as alway's.

Hi @Fiddlestix
It would make sense except that I live in the southern hemisphere , not the northern. aussie_flag laugh

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I understand where you live, John,, you have winter there too, just not the same time we have up here. It's your summer now.

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Fiddlestix said

I understand where you live, John,, you have winter there too, just not the same time we have up here. It's your summer now.

True. But winter here is very short. Last year it was on a Tuesday rofl

It's also rather humid here all year round. A good violin climate.

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Okay, I've found different rosins leave different dusts or no dust. For a while I was using "Super Sensitive" light rosin (the only brand my local music store sold). It worked decent but never left any fine dust. It would build up on the strings and sometimes small clumps of rosin would get on the fingerboard or the violin. But nothing major.  Then for a while I tried Hidersine light rosin.  It was a lot like the "Super sensitive" except that I didn't like it too much.  Seemed to make the music sound dry and a bit scratchy. I recently switched to a dark rosin which I like a lot better than either the "Super Sensitive" or  the "Hidersine".  Seems to grip the strings better and provides a richer and fuller sound. Only other difference is it does leave dust  After a  practice session or a rehearsal I have to wipe away the fine rosin dust that builds up on the fingerboard and body.

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