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bowhamster
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February 7, 2012 - 12:07 pm
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I have a huge problem with my playing even though i follow the notes and the time signaTure im finding that what i am playing is a collection of noise an nothing that sounds like what is is surposed to. For example aying bach suit one it sounds nothing
Like what it should do. Where am i going wrong because this is serioulsy
Gettimg me down. Is it beacuse im dyslexic becaus i have heard that can effect rythem any adive very much welcome

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First, don't let it get to you! I was actually going through this myself, in my practice session last night. I am also learning to read the music notations, and there was this piece that just did not sound right (I blame my past experience in learning how to play piano, and how some pieces were written in different keys with different notes), and I just get all confuse, BUT I trust my ears!

Sometimes, following the music notation can become frustrating because you follow what the notes are telling you to play, but sometimes, these can't be incorrect, or you are just a little off with your left hand.

If you are just starting, like me, trust your ear more than anything else. If the note you are playing by the book does not sound nothing like you know it should, move your fingers a bit (up or down the strings) and see if you can find the note you are looking for.

Also, don't rush it, taking it slowly. I am sure everyone goes at their own pace. In my case I am still stuck with Twinkle Twinkle, and I will stay at it, until I am satisfied with it, not that am a perfectionists, but I am practicing my bowing with it, and I would honestly, rather just know one tune, and play it perfectly, than knowing 10 and sort of playing these.

I am not sure what books or music sheets you are following, but the ones the FM has listed on his site are pretty accurate, and he does a pretty good job of explaining (on his videos) where to put your fingers. And if you have questions, which all of us do, that is why FM has created this site ūüôā

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I have exactly the same problem when I play.  The only conclusion I can come to is that the sheet music lies to us.

 

OK, I'll be serious now.

 

SirRyu has made some really good observations.  To them I would add, break it down to try and figure out exactly where the problem is.  Here are some questions I ask myself when I'm making more noise than music:

1.) Am I playing the right notes? (Don't laugh. amuse I have bad eyesight and sheet music is hard for me to read.)

2.) Is my intonation close enough to correct that it is not throwing off my perception of the piece?

3.) Are the relative lengths of the notes correct? (When I'm first learning I'm not nearly as interested in being right on target as I am in getting the idea down.)

4.) Is the sheet music actually for the piece I think I am playing? (Again, don't laugh. amuse My genre is folk and there are a million variations for common tunes. Sometimes I find the music for one other than what I want to play. This might not apply to you.)

 

Anyway, based on the answers to these questions, I can usually pinpoint what I need to work on.  If the answers are "no," "no," "no," and "yes" then I go back to the beginnning to learn it from scratch.  (I focus on notes and intonation first and, once I know where my fingers are supposed to go, then I start working on rhythm. *shrugs* It works for me.) 

 

Also, another thing I've noticed with my own playing is that when I'm new to a piece I may think I am playing according to the sheet music but, because I am somewhat hesitant and feeling around for the notes, I'm not getting the rhythm correct at all.

 

More than anything, I rely on my ears.  If it sounds wrong to me then it probably is wrong.  (If I don't know exactly what is wrong then I mess around with that part until it is right.)

 

So, in short, stick with it.  You'll get there.

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February 7, 2012 - 3:46 pm
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Good tips from everyone. I maintain that we can help you much better if we have a sample of your playing.
Even if you have dyslexia you can play rhythmical. Try marching to the beat or swaying slowly.

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Are you really talking about the rhythm being off or the dynamics being off or not there at all.  You can play a piece in perfect time and hit every note perfectly but without dynamics the music has no soul and just sounds like a bunch of notes.

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February 7, 2012 - 4:34 pm
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Kevin m think you have hit upon the problem somewhat but its also kinda with the gettin notes right I have surprised myself how much i can pick up with my ears in a short space of time but its as you say i can play twinkle twinkle but it does sound like ehat you say a collection of notes. Any ideas or is it a case of practice?

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Hear the music in your head while you play it or sing it while you play

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Excellent observations and suggestions.No wonder the topics have crossed the 1000th mark and posts have gone up over 14000.  You are all making this a wonderful forum.

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