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NoirVelours
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Ok so I started doing my scales but I'm stuck already! In my method books, I see many scales, Key of G, key of A, C and not even a complete D. But I could not find any music sheet with all the notes as exercises for all 4 strings! Often it's just 2 strings but E and G are missing. dunno

Also I have no idea which Key I'm supposed to start with as a beginner! Like the traditional Twinkle starting on string A is in key of A but I see many beginner songs in key of G also? duncecap

I'm all mixed up! Someone please help me order all of this and find some complete scale exercises music sheet for beginners? dazed

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Hmmm.... I'd start with one octave scales, probably g major and d major.

http://www.fretlessfingerguide.....cales.html has notation for one octave scales. With these scales (g and d) you will use a "high second finger" that is common in beginner songs.

Is this helpful at all?

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Oh, and A major (beginning on open a) will have the same finger pattern too.

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Knowing where to start is the hardest thing. FM has a C Major scale written down on his beginners guide. It has no sharps or flats so when you see written music with no sharps or flats at the beginning you know the scale is C major. (when you DO see any Sharps, you can easily identify what is the Key signature from the sharp note written furthest on the right, it is always on the note beow the KeySig eg. If it is on the top line, the F line, it is key sig G major. On the E line makes it a F major.
I learnt GMajor to start coz it only has an F sharp note, all the others are natural.
Now use FM fingering chart and it will show you, for each Key Sig which notes are in that scale and where to find them on the fingerboard. Hard part after that is to know if you hit the right notes. I used my violin tuner for that.
It's all down to memory really when learning each scale/Key Sig ( except the finger spacing is always the same.
Eg if doing G maj. Start on the Lowest G note. Finger spacing is always space space together space space space together. So 2 space,together, 3 space, together with your finger position. You will see this on FM fingering chart.
I hope this hasn't confused you even more.......
I'm sure FM will put me right and tell you a much easier way of learning scales lol

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I think I explained badly! I don't have problem with identifying the key of a song or where to put the fingers, I just cannot find any complete scale exercises using all 4 strings and have no idea which one I should practice first.

I hope I'm not mixing up technical terms but, I want something in more then one octave?

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Ah! Sorry, in that case you can write in your own 2 octave scales by using my 2, together, 3, together, finger pattern. But I'm sure the 2 octave scales will be on the web somewhere.

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I saw them Sara it's not what I'm looking for, I need exercises on more then 2 octaves to practice ALL the 4 fingers. thanks anyway coffee

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Nope myguitar thanks anyway!

I quit! Those are not exercises, I'm failling totally at trying to explain to you guys what I'm looking for lol cry I'll end up buying a scale studies book or something.

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The One Octave Scales are on the bottom of this list.
I did all the common scales with the viola and you guys can play along with the viola as well.

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Note that I have a special symbol for half steps. The other intervals are whole steps.

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I was taught the D major scale first but I kind of think that the Cmajor would have been best to learn first.  Learn all the natural notes and the it's either sharp or flat.

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Same here, I was also taught the D major scale first, as the foundation to all of my lessons.  When I asked my teacher why, his response was,

"It makes it easier to learn/lock-in your finger positions because each finger is in the exact same position on every string (you know, high first, high second, low third) so that your hand is learning the same measures across all strings."

When I went ot FiddleCamp a few weeks ago, everyone there seemed to have the same starting point; so this seems to be a universal practice.

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Ok thanks guys, D major it will be!

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We start with A Major; then D Major followed by G Major.  But here is an interesting scale method by Graham Clark.

http://www.fiddleforum.com/fid.....ic=28298.0

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Thank you that post was very nice!

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