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hey guys,

So I'm trying to understand the significance of Up beats, notes that are placed in the beginning of the piece that actually go at the end....does that make sense? Am i supposed to play those notes to start or do i just play them at the end? My book doesn't really explain them at all so I'm  a bit confused on how to play and why they go there. thank you all for your help!!! If needed i'll post a picture of what it shows. 

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I found this video.  This guy is funny!!

http://piano.wonderhowto.com/h.....re-375147/

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An upbeat is a beat that leads to the downbeat. Why would you play it at the end? I for one need the picture. :-)
The upbeat often introduces the downbeat/pulse which is the intended emphases and when playing in an ensemble fits with the other parts.

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are you sure it isnt pick up notes you are talking about ?

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I think it is what she is referring to. An upbeat is more what a conductor gives to the downbeat so that you come in on the beat. :-)

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@rockinglr33 

I'm also guessing that you are talking about "pick up" beats.  Pick up beats are notes played prior to the first measure.   Assume a score with 12 measures, in 3/4 time with a quarter note preceeding the first measure.  We count in the imaginary first two beats: "1, 2"  and the music begins on the 3rd beat (the quarter note preceding the first measure). Then we continue to play each measure with it's 3 beats, until we get to the last measure.  In the last measure there will be only two beats.  The result is that the music comes out with the correct total number of beats for 3/4 time: 12 * 3 = 36 beats. But one of those beats is at the very beginning and two are in the last measure.

With up and down beats, imagine tapping your foot. When the foot is in the uppermost position, that is the up beat.  When the toe is on the floor that's the down beat.  Most music puts emphasis on the down beats, but some music such as Reggae, puts the emphasis on the up beat.  When the emphasis is on the upbeat it is referred to as a "back beat."

 

Hope this helps.  If I'm wrong in anything I've said, please feel free to correct me.

 

 

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Pickup notes belong to an upbeat, but not all upbeats belong to pickup notes.

Pickup notes are in an incomplete measure at the start of the piece or section.  Usually If the section including the pickups is repeated, the last measure of the repeated section is incomplete, and it is virtually completed by repeating the pickup notes.

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Sorry it took me so long to get back to ya'll. 

 

Thanks everyone for your feed back. I think i got confused a bit with my book, the way it explained it. I thought you were supposed to play that up beat/pick up beat at the end as well but thats not the case. 

 

You guys are awesome! 😀 

 

One last question... pick up/up beats are played the same as the rest of the piece correct? or are they supposed to be played quieter or louder then the rest of the piece? I'm assuming that they are played the same i just wanna make sure.

I'm gonna try and get a pic up just for kicks but my computers being stupid and not letting me upload at this time. thanks again everyone!

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That's actually a great question. Most of the time the pickup notes are leading to the emphasized downbeat and are played softer though it really depends on the piece. :)

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In some styles of music, the pick up notes are primarily present for one or two reasons, they are there to let dancers know when to take their first step (right after the pick up notes), or to let other band/orchestra/group, members know when to begin playing their parts.  There may be other reasons, that others can point to.

Think of pick up notes as simply a rhythmic introduction.  Also, pickup notes are unstressed.

 

 

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ahhhh ok, everything is becoming clear! thank you @Fiddlerman  and @Uzi !

 

now off to practice some. I'll hopefully post a video someday soon with one of those up beats/pick up notes and see if ya'll think i'm playing it right! now practice practice practice! muh hahahahaha!!!!

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