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About two weeks ago I was complaining that one of my bows was "faster" than the others.  I weighed the bows and measured balance point but still did not learn anything.
So I have been staring at these bows wondering what was going on and then I just did the obvious.  I divided my bows by "quickness".  How easy was it to play fast?  My present bow collection is 6 bows and I grouped 3 as "fast" and 3 as "slow". I then saw the difference.
The 3 slow bows had heavier rubber pads.  These were 2 Glassers and an octagon Meinel.  The "fast(er) bows had windings but no larger diameters in the winding areas.
Now, I was still not convinced so I cut all the padding off of one Glasser.  Immediate difference.
I would wonder if I'm losing it but then I remembered something.  Have I not seen many a fiddler playing way up the stick past all the frog hardware?

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Four players who just don't care for frogs and all that hardware.  I wonder why.  They must know something that I don't  duncecapduncecapduncecapduncecap

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I love it! I would have loved to sat in on that!  thumbs-up 

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How sweet it is !

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Fiddlerman
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November 11, 2011 - 10:00 pm
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Why are they so sad? No smiles or Yeeeeeee Haaaaaaaaaa's

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That is the standard stolid nature of folks in the Ozarks.  No Yankee hysteria in Arkansas and some people even drive at the speed limit !fish

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Did Barry just leave?

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Fiddlerman
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I'm very sorry to hear that Barry cause I really value your posts and so do many others. I have actually learned a lot from you.

The above post wasn't really meant negatively at all. I listened to the whole thing and enjoyed it very much and that is why I was wondering why they weren't smiling and yelling Yeeeee Haaaaaa. I kind of was thinking while listening that I would have enjoyed playing with them. People that know me know how much I love and enjoy country and folk music. Perhaps I should have added how much I enjoyed it.

I have wanted to post myself playing folk music but I don't feel that I am competent enough to do it. As much as I want to, I don't have the right feel but I give it my best shot.

Hope you reconsider your decision to not come back here.

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Well, I to will miss ol Barry, but I understand.

If you want to focus on one type of music and have discussions with like minded people.  Then  there are  probably   sites out there that are more focused on that particular genre.

But if you like all kinds of music, except hip hop. (my opinion only) Then this is the place for you. done 

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I reread what you wrote Barry and I must apologize about the "yeeeee haaaaa" remark. Believe it or not I have been known to yell it when playing classical music, but you are right, it would not be fitting here to do so.

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Classical musicians have heard me say how upset I am at them many times for not smiling from time to time and for bows afterwards but of course this is a sad piece and it probably isn't fitting either. Also, I did look at it again and saw that the older lady is smiling and she is really enjoying this.

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AAA!!! GUYS!! COMEOOON!!! Barry, take it easy! Nobody NEVER-EVER wants to offend anybody here!!! You can't leave, we are family! Don't you love us anymore? heart

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http://www.myspace.com/music/player

 

Be it ever so humble.  Where I belong ……… I guess it's in my genes even if I mingle on "fancy" forumssmile

About "fancy" …. FIDDLERMAN has 4 videos on top of the RECOMMENDED pile on YouTube today !!!!!!  (Is that a record?) (And the counter on this post says I have 999 posts.  I wonder what I will win for 1000 posts?  A car?  A little car?  A SkiDoo? (they have to be in good supply in Ft. L.)

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November 12, 2011 - 11:13 am
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WOW Oliver 1st-place 999 is more or less 1000

Congratulations. If I win the lottery I'll send you a little car. cheerleader

Thanks for all you posts.dancing

PS. recommended videos on YouTube are based entirely upon what you as an individual are looking at. They differ from person to person.

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I'll consider this to be an I.O.U dancingdancingdancing

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Mad_Wed said:

Nobody NEVER-EVER wants to offend anybody here!!! You can't leave, we are family! Don't you love us anymore? heart

Barry, you're right of course, if you don't feel you're contributing here and thereby wasting your time, we wish you well and adieu.

However, I'm with Pierre, we've all learned a lot from you, I'm a big fan of your YouTube page, and I don't think everyone here is an aspiring orchestral classical musician.  We're just ordinary folk sharing and trying to help each other out.

I also watched the video and enjoyed the 'family' atmosphere of those musicians.  I'm an Aussie, so I don't 'Yeeeee Haaaaa' at anything ... ever.  But if I'd heard that holler during the video, I wouldn't have thought it out of place.  

I think what I'm trying to say is that those of us ignorant of the differing genres of violin/fiddle or any other type of instrumental music really appreciate input from those who do know where they're coming from.  devil-violin

Oliver, make sure you post a pic of your little car.  Congratulations on making 1000, I think you're king now, aren't you?

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@Oliver- I have the Glasser bows and the older one has a loose plastic padding. I have thought about cutting the dang thing off. An alternate thought- it could be used as a counter weight slid down the other end- ha!

I have noticed many Irish fiddlers choke up on the bow- looking at the Comhaltas competitions, it seems more do than holding it at the frog. I am not sure why they do- does make one wonder. I think I'll ask my Dublin trained fiddler friend on Facebook. 

The Faded Love video was nifty! I love seeing a house full of musicians (: I am surprised though no one was playing harmony. They could have had a triple fiddle thing going on, ala Johnny Gimble/Bob Wills/Asleep at the Wheel version- love that!     

Well dang, that's sad that Barry left! I live in the same neck of the woods as Barry, in fact, ON the bluff of the Cumberland river (: I wish I had seen this when it was first posted. The one thing that impressed me about this site is that fiddlers of all genres can learn from this site, and from one another. I may have been trained classically, but there was a CDB (Charlie Daniels Band) sticker on my violin case throughout school, and my dad took me to many a CDB Day out in Mt. Juliet, TN. When I wasn't practicing for orchestra, Jr. or Youth Symphony, I was listening and playing along with recordings of Charlie Daniels, Johnny Gimble, Papa Ti Jean Carignan, Joe Venuti, Chubby Wise, Don Messer, and many others. My orchestra teacher was very encouraging, even about me playing fiddle tunes by ear. Any technique, seriously, of any genre can be applied to another. I play mostly folk music now, but I am indebted to my orchestra teacher, Henry Hampton for the excellent classical training I got, and I honestly believe it has made me a more versatile player, able to play a variety of genres.             

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I always suspect that things particular to fiddle playing have a special pedigree of common sense that I am too brain washed to figure out.  But I will continue to try the fiddlers' bow style now and then and hope for a eureka moment.
Meanwhile I am playing with my modified Glasser.

My guess is that Barry will reappear even if just for a short visit(s).

Yes, I think you are certainly right about Faded Love harmony.

coffee2

PS  While  I'm here.....did any one mention the Christmas Program?  See Free Music Lists for further info.

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Ya, it's sad that Barry doesn't want to participate anymore since he was a big part of the forum for a long time. Hopefully he will reconsider. crossedfingers

I have some "to do" ideas on my list about doing a combined fiddlers project same as the "Christmas Project" and he would fit in perfectly.

By the way, are you joining us on this project QuicheLoraine? The more the merrier. smile

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Fiddlerman said:

...I have some "to do" ideas on my list about doing a combined fiddlers project same as the "Christmas Project" ...

YeeeeeHaaaaa!! /<-hope i can say that with impunityduncecap /

That is very helpful to participate in your projects, FiddlerMan! That's really mobilizing! I'm in!

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