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What is a virtuoso?
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Excluding dubious qualities such as performing under pressure, adverse conditions, etc...it is sight reading I guess. And yet I don't see a virtuoso level at the Royal Conservatory even though sight reading is part of the examination.  As far as I can tell, a virtuoso is a whomever the media giants say it is.

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i think, correct me if im wrong the definition of a virtuso is "A person of excels at an instrument" Perhaps like somone taking up violin and be very very good a month or later would be a virtuoso

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A violinist who can play Paganini's Caprices perfectly would qualify as excelling at an instrument yet still is not a virtuoso because that person could have taken a long time to master the work.  Apparently, there have never been any virtuoso's who began learning the violin as an adult (> 20 years old) and I'm not sure why.  Why cannot an adult be a whiz at sight reading?

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Obviously we soak things in faster as children. Our brains are like sponges before we are adults but as long as we keep out brains active we should be able to excel rather quickly too. Granted there are some physical restrictions too but playing the violin is not like doing circus tricks.

Is it a fact that their are no virtuoso's that began playing the violin as an adult or we just haven't heard of them?

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Fiddlerman said
Is it a fact that their are no virtuoso's that began playing the violin as an adult or we just haven't heard of them?

As we get older,<<<68, we can call ourselves virtuosos but we keep it a secret and don't tell anyone else.roflol

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I think you've goy it FM.  People who start learning at an older age might well be a virtuoso but have a great job and do it merely for the love of playing therefore they aren't out there trying to be heard.  They may right in your little hometown orchestra right now.

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You are right FM -- circus tricks are easier -- especially for us older dogs.rofl

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People like David Garret are called virtuosos because they've played since they could walk basically, excelled in all they did, can memorize like 200 classical pieces and never miss a note when they play (or cover it up exceptionally well!) and can play by ear as well.

He's a specific kind of player, born and raised on classical, played in a professional capacity early in his childhood and now is famous for his cross-over playing of modern pieces with the violin.

Picking it up and just playing 'anything' in key, and basically note for note with the current tune, and having a 4 million dollar instrument and actually being able to afford it,,, that would make you a virtuoso in my book.

They play the violin like you and I walk and talk... second nature and although we might trip as we walk, we recover quickly 'naturally' (most of the time). They can speak of most any subject as long as it's about the music. Very few virtuosos can do simple things like change the oil in their car. Re-roof their house. Repair a broken cord on a blender, etc. Their entire life has been devoted to making sounds from a wood box that defy logic and many laws of physics! LOL

I think in many respects FM would qualify as a 'virtuoso' as well. He plays many, many pieces of classical, can play be ear... knows the in's & out's of the world of the classical musician and basically can pick it up and just play... He might compare to others like David as a 'beginning virtuoso' but one never the less.thumbs-up  

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You got that nail on the head thing. I think a "virtuoso"  has the gift to do one thing amazingly well, period.devil-violin

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