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re classical genre:  do the wealthy bring in string trios or quartets for parties?  As for violin and piano, I went to a recital last year for two world class players and it didn't draw flies and the city won't do it again.

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What about teaching?  If you can do the "fun crazy stuff" like Paganini caprices, God save the King, and Ernst Last Rose of Summer, is the world your oyster? 

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really?facepalm

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My teacher is in a string quartet and I'm
Thinking of asking them to come and play at my50th garden party in June.
Ps. I'm neither rich nor wealthy dazed

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If you want job security, teaching is probably the best way to go.  Or maybe work as a studio musician? 

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TerryT said
My teacher is in a string quartet and I'm
Thinking of asking them to come and play at my50th garden party in June.
Ps. I'm neither rich nor wealthy dazed

But you are 50.     birthday-cake

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Not yet!
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JC Terry, how in the world will you play violin over your shawl?wink

I invited my teacher (he's a single older gent) over to our house for Christmas dinner and he was kind enough to bring his violin and viola and he played beautiful Christmas music for my family for an hour, just as a kind gesture!  It was a spectacular experience for my family.

I've hired a violinist before for a client party and he only cost me $150 for 3 hrs (and I ain't rich either btw); guests loved it.

But just last weekend, my teacher played at a really upscale party with another violinist, a cellist [sp.?], and a french hornist [dazed], and they each got paid $340 for 3 hrs.,,,, his employer that day was wealthy.  There is a pretty decent market for that kind of entertainment here in SoCal.

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If I want money I'd go into business or the profession I am in now

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JC Terry, how in the world will you play violin over your shawl?wink

I invited my teacher (he's a single older gent) over to our house for Christmas dinner and he was kind enough to bring his violin and viola and he played beautiful Christmas music for my family for an hour, just as a kind gesture!  It was a spectacular experience for my family.

I've hired a violinist before for a client party and he only cost me $150 for 3 hrs (and I ain't rich either btw); guests loved it.

But just last weekend, my teacher played at a really upscale party with another violinist, a cellist [sp.?], and a french hornist [dazed], and they each got paid $340 for 3 hrs.,,,, his employer that day was wealthy.  There is a pretty decent market for that kind of entertainment here in SoCal.

Heck, I'll play a party for much less but I can't guarantee you that it will sound very good..  But if there is plenty of beer who cares... cheerscheerscheers

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ftufc said

JC Terry, how in the world will you play violin over your shawl?wink

Haha, I could use the rocking motion of the chair to help move the bow across the strings sleep

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In my experience, for the vast majority of musicians, dancers, singers, etc performing is not a way to get rich. If you are fortunate, it is a way to get by while spending every day doing something you love. I have a friend who is a professional musician. He is fairly well known, but by no means rich. I have a friend who is a dancer. In her heyday she was a recognized name in her genre in dance, but only earned enough to live on and was constantly touring. Heck, the accounts I have read of many classical composers suggest that they were not rich and their widows and/or children were often left nearly destitute after they were gone and the wealthy sponsors were no longer there. The arts are not a path to fabulous wealth.

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I wonder how much a subway fiddler can make per day violin I read that begging can rack up to 18$/hour downtown in my city.

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dionysia said

In my experience, for the vast majority of musicians, dancers, singers, etc performing is not a way to get rich. If you are fortunate, it is a way to get by while spending every day doing something you love. I have a friend who is a professional musician. He is fairly well known, but by no means rich. I have a friend who is a dancer. In her heyday she was a recognized name in her genre in dance, but only earned enough to live on and was constantly touring. Heck, the accounts I have read of many classical composers suggest that they were not rich and their widows and/or children were often left nearly destitute after they were gone and the wealthy sponsors were no longer there. The arts are not a path to fabulous wealth.

I tend to agree with you Dionysia, it seems that the higher the skill level required, the less wealth can be accrued doing what you enjoy. Just look at the bank balances of some of these rap artists compared to orchestral musicians.

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Terry, I agree it's sad really.

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Well.. it's really upsetting for professionals. But my teacher doesn't complain. She says that one really can make some money with violin for the living... Though month fee for a violin teacher in Russian music school is about $50 LOL! 

I don't want to be famous =) LOL... never... especially a famous teacher... God save me!

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They make 40$ and more for a 1 hour lesson here in Québec! Someone can live by teaching if they find enough students but as for making a living from playing? Totally different game.

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Yep... Here is opposit. Teachers mostly make money from the gigs and concerts... not from teaching. First i paid my teacher about 8$ for a lesson (it could be hour or more). Now my teacher refuses to take money from me at all, and teaches me for free...facepalm I'm against it but i'm tired of argue... Though there very few people in Russia can pay $40 for a lesson.

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Terry, there is a reason why you can't compare making money from classical to rap. Rap is the biggest money maker today and it has a lot to do with getting their funding for advertising and such from illegal sources such as gangs and well the list goes on in the rap scene.

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I need to go live in Russia! We have the same temperature, amount of snow and type of forests anyway hehe.

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My friend once told me that if I wanted extra cash I should learn 3 cords, 4 songs, and pick a busy street corner....

I am inspired by this young man...just look at the booty he collects!

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