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The poll section is quiet...
...so I thought I'd throw this in.
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March 5, 2014 - 7:22 pm
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What is your opinion on finger tapes?

  • Okay to start with, but ditch them quick(44% : 7 votes)
  • Only use them if you absolutely have to(38% : 6 votes)
  • They're perfectly okay to use(13% : 2 votes)
  • Awful, avoid them at all costs!(6% : 1 vote)
Total Voters: 16
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Fiddlerman
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March 6, 2014 - 11:05 am
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Good poll idea. Thanks :)

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Excellent poll question and something I was already thinking about.  I'm the one vote for avoid them at all costs. A few days ago someone posted a video showing a guy playing  the Star Wars theme, (I think.)  Fiddlerman said that one should never hold the violin the way this fellow did, with his chin in a position that allowed him to look straight down the violin neck.  Looking at the video, it was apparent that the reason he was doing this was that he had stickies on the neck of his violin that he was using as visual position queues. I did some thinking about that, since I too was trying to visually see where to put my fingers to play notes, albeit without the stickies -- and missing as often as not by 10-15 cents.  So I decided to try to play without looking at the neck at all, just to see what would happen. Surprisingly, my intonation improved almost immediately, and when my fingers missed the mark, they immediately adjusted themselves to the correct pitch without my looking at the neck at all.

 

While I realize that visual queues may be somewhat helpful in violin playing, it seems that one might be better off by "seeing" with one's ears more than one's eyes.  For the piano or guitar, visual locations are very helpful because you either hit the key; put your finger behind the right fret, or you don't. The visual queues there are easy to see and the targets are pretty large. With the violin, missing by a couple of millimeters makes a noticeable difference in pitch and you just can't see that small a target accurately enough with tape or without. I'm becoming convinced that tactile landmarks like the base of the scroll or your hand touching the upper bout, as well as the feel of how far your fingers are spread (muscle memory), combined with really listening to the pitch is the key to success on fretless instruments.  I say toss the tape. 

  

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Fiddlerman
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March 6, 2014 - 8:29 pm
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Uzi said
.........Fiddlerman said that one should never hold the violin the way this fellow did, with his chin in a position that allowed him to look straight down the violin neck..........

Just want to make clear that looking straight down the violin neck is great, no problem. It's the holding of the violin with your chin clamping it between your chest and chin which can be problematic. It can put stress in the wrong place causing temporary and even long term or chronic pain. I have worked with many who have had this problem.

If you can hold the violin with your jaw bone, relaxed and turn your head so that you are looking down the fingerboard, you will be fine. :-)
  

 

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My limited knowledge of music tells me that using sticker's on the fingerboard are only as good as one's instrument is in tune and that the sticker's be positioned in the exact location. If the instrument is out of tune and one has no ear for intonation, then the song will be played out of tune.

Just my opinion.

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The whole forum has been a bit slow of late. We seem to have list a few regulars as well.

Come on guys, "post it, and they will read" :)

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Fiddlerman
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April 3, 2014 - 8:09 am
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Yes please !!!!!!!
I've been thinking the same thing John.
Our visits haven't dropped much either. We used to top 2000 unique visits per day but now just under.

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Sorry, I know I'm slacking.  I've been super busy!

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I'm going to answer before reading any of the replies.  My teacher insists on using finger tapes.  I really did like them at first and thought they were sure handy.  But I've been playing for a bit over two years now and am ready to ditch them!!!  I've even taken them off before (they were worn out!).  She said she really wants me to keep using them for now since I still hit a wrong note every now and then, and put them back on.  I'm ready to get rid of them again and am perfectly satisfied if I hit the wrong note occasionally.  At this point, they are embarrassing to me. 

 

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Hitting the wrong note and playing out of tune are two different things. I agree with you about taking them off. :-) Just don't tell your teacher I said so ;-)

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Lol I guess I meant playing out of tune, not a full on wrong note.  

 

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