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hi everyone. i had some doubts and could not find a suitable thread to jump in, so a new one where rookies can air their cries and queries. i hope old hats are fine with it.
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i am trying to learn violin from internet. i wanted to tune my violin with a Korg tuner. i read E string is of the highest pitch out of all four. my tuner has got A higher pitch than E, and i find it difficult to tune my A string. why this descrepency? i already broke 2 new A strings..

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You're probably tuning the A string to a A at a higher octave. Does the tuner show what octave you are at? 

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Your tuner should read 440 Hz., this is the standard A string pitch. Start by tuning the A string first.

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my tuner shows 440Hz. the lowest pitch it starts with is C, goes to C#, D.. and ends with C(highest pitch). no it doesn't show what octave is at. its a CA-1 chromatic Korg and doesn't say much in manual about changing the octave. is there any other way to get correct pitch setting with this and my violin?

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@lajukr;  sure there are other way's, you might try the online Fiddlerman tuner found here on this site. http://fiddlerman.com/fiddle-l.....ine-tuner/

Personally, I'm not real fond of this particular tuner because it has a wobble tremolo. So I use this one. http://www.get-tuned.com/onlin....._tuner.php 

I find it easier to tune without the tremolo, but it's a matter of choice.

Just tune by ear, get close and then use your electronic tuner to tidy up the tone.

Hope this will help you get in tune.violin-1267

 

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Thanks for reminding me Ken. LOL
I tried hard for a while to eliminate the Finale Midi Vibrato but even though I uncrossed all the settings for eliminating the vibrato, I got the vibrato. Now a days I have a newer version of Finale and should be able to eliminate the vibrato to make a better tuner. :-)

As a side note. Orchestras always take their A's from an oboe because originally it was considered the hardest instrument to adjust. Now a days oboes use electronic tuners to tune to the orchestras chosen 440, 441, 442, 443 and as high as 444 A's. Anywy, some of these principle oboes like to vibrate when giving A's to sound more beautiful. I think it is ridiculous but usually don't embarrass them by saying anything.

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lajukr said
i am trying to learn violin from internet. i wanted to tune my violin with a Korg tuner. i read E string is of the highest pitch out of all four. my tuner has got A higher pitch than E, and i find it difficult to tune my A string. why this descrepency? i already broke 2 new A strings..

You might get better results if the title of your post indicates better what is in the post.  It helps not only you, but other people looking for an answer.

Some tuners report the wrong octave number, believe it or not, and that may be mentioned right on the box or in the instructions.  That may not apply to your Korg, but I am informed from more than one source that it is sometimes true of the tuners that come with Cecilios.

1) Play fiddlerman's intonation game to see that you can score close to 100% at intermediate level: http://fiddlerman.com/fiddle-l.....tion-game/

2) Make sure you are turning the correct peg to tune the string you want to tune.  You would not be the first to snap a string by making that kind of mistake.

3) Tune the string to match what you hear on fiddleman's online tuner: http://fiddlerman.com/fiddle-l.....e-tuner/  That will get you close, regardless of vibrato or the exact definition of A.

4) Use your tuner to get to the exact pitch, disregarding the octave number reported by the tuner.

 

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