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Ferret
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I often hear people on the forum say how much they enjoy the FM forum and how helpful Pierre's tutorials and other resources are, and I totally agree.

Obviously FM puts a great deal of time, effort, and MONEY into Fiddlerman and it's sister site, Violaman.

I think that it's time that we all put our money where our mouths are and push the 'Donate to Fiddlerman' button and give him a bit of a hand.

It doesn't have to be a lot of money. Just what you can afford will do. If you can't afford anything, no one on the forum will hold it against you, I'm sure.

I have donated a couple of times before and will take the lead this time by donating AU$20.00 right now. I am not a wealthy person but I'm more than happy to give so that this great resource for violinists / violists can be available to all.

BTW....... FM has absolutely no say in this, so if he posts and says not to do it, just ignore him and donate anyway.

John

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Ferret
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I have made my donation banana

Don't disappoint me folks. Push the 'donate' button now. It's on this page. Top right, just under the FM banner.

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Ouch, ouch, quit twisting my arm! OK, OK, I donated. (And no I don't have a ponytail and have never sampled Japanese Maple Leaves. It's true, yes it is.)   :)

 

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I have made my donation banana

Don't disappoint me folks. Push the 'donate' button now. It's on this page. Top right, just under the FM banner.

 

Fiddlerman gets revenue from advertising, equipment sales, and skype lessons.  I don't why exactly you want the "community" to donate.  I don't see much point providing content when I don't derive income from the resulting traffic.  If there is no purpose to the community then how can the traffic grow?  And currently there is a real identity problem:  the interest in classical music here is nil but the training methods are predominantly based on classical methods that even that other violin website doesn't even promote.   At some point Pierre has to just shut down the classical sections and promote his own method books because it doesn't make any sense to put up freely available sevcik, etc books that nobody is using.

Anyways, I've lost interest here.  There is nothing to be gained.

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Ferret
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Composer said

I have made my donation banana

Don't disappoint me folks. Push the 'donate' button now. It's on this page. Top right, just under the FM banner.

 

Fiddlerman gets revenue from advertising, equipment sales, and skype lessons.  I don't why exactly you want the "community" to donate.  I don't see much point providing content when I don't derive income from the resulting traffic.  If there is no purpose to the community then how can the traffic grow?  And currently there is a real identity problem:  the interest in classical music here is nil but the training methods are predominantly based on classical methods that even that other violin website doesn't even promote.   At some point Pierre has to just shut down the classical sections and promote his own method books because it doesn't make any sense to put up freely available sevcik, etc books that nobody is using.

Anyways, I've lost interest here.  There is nothing to be gained.

You are obviously far too advanced a player to find any benefit here. You may be more comfortable somewhere like violinist.com

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Composer said
I have made my donation banana

Don't disappoint me folks. Push the 'donate' button now. It's on this page. Top right, just under the FM banner.

 

Fiddlerman gets revenue from advertising, equipment sales, and skype lessons.  I don't why exactly you want the "community" to donate.  I don't see much point providing content when I don't derive income from the resulting traffic.  If there is no purpose to the community then how can the traffic grow?  And currently there is a real identity problem:  the interest in classical music here is nil but the training methods are predominantly based on classical methods that even that other violin website doesn't even promote.   At some point Pierre has to just shut down the classical sections and promote his own method books because it doesn't make any sense to put up freely available sevcik, etc books that nobody is using.

Anyways, I've lost interest here.  There is nothing to be gained.

 

so does that mean you aren't going to bless us with all those scales and melodies you said you were going to finally try on for size? dunno

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Ferret
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Steve said

Ouch, ouch, quit twisting my arm! OK, OK, I donated. (And no I don't have a ponytail and have never sampled Japanese Maple Leaves. It's true, yes it is.)   :)

 

Good on ya mate. I hope more do.

I don't believe you about the leaves rofl

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For a website like this to be here, even if it assists but a single player, then it has certainly done good. Several people here have started good friendships, even from bad or not so jovial starts. It takes more then 1 person to achieve a successful friendship. It takes more then 2 people to become a community. I see the building of a community. If it last for 5 more minutes or 50 more year, it is a place where you can learn for free. You do not have to give anything. You also don't have to complain about people who do.

This is no different then paying for a lesson. Some lessons you learn from, others you don't. You still paid for your lesson. Certainly the majority of us here are beginners and later in life. We will more then likely never be part of an orchestra, a band, or have grand and glorious performances in auditoriums packed with people. What we have is a small little piece of the cyber world in which we express our limited and sometimes daily new found talents and skills. We are a blessed group here to have the resources at hand. It is Free. So what if a person asks you to donate for the privilege of utilizing the content here. If you don't feel it benefits you enough to donate, then don't. If you find a little guilt bug, then maybe you should. Its up to you. You don't have to be bitter or discouraging to those who do find value in the content here.

Basics are basics and are a transferable skill. If the teachings don't impress you, don't use them. It is free content. People complain when they pay, people complain when its free, people complain when asked for assistance. Some people will never be happy and have no joy in their life. They refuse to let it in. These same people want to bring people to their self destructive level in life. I have not mentioned names nor will I. If you find yourself getting angry or mad because of this, then insert your name here.

 

Now, where's that donate button........ completed!

Thanks Pierre! thumbs-up

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Fiddlerman
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January 8, 2013 - 10:51 pm
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Thanks guys. I do know that I have the best bunch of members of any online forum and that is all the thanks I need to fuel my work. Your generosities are very much appreciated but not expected.

Love you guys.

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but the one who needs the least."

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violinist.com is useless for the classical adult beginner because its not suitable as a medium for experiential learning.  The blog format isn't useful to maintain detailed historical records and the peanut gallery is hostile towards the adult self-learner.  Plus there is broad support for the suzuki method of which I have no interest.

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Composer said

violinist.com is useless for the classical adult beginner because its not suitable as a medium for experiential learning.  The blog format isn't useful to maintain detailed historical records and the peanut gallery is hostile towards the adult self-learner.  Plus there is broad support for the suzuki method of which I have no interest.

I can understand your comments about violinist.com, but there must be forums and resources out there that would suit your interests and level of playing. You could do worse than to hang around here and take what is useful to you and just leave the rest. The people here are the friendliest violin/fiddle people that I have found on the Internet. Give people a chance to help.

Then again, what would I know? I'm just a 'baggy arsed Aussie' . But I mean well aussie_flag

To everyone else, 'Hit The Donate Button' to help keep this learning resource and meeting pace for the average bewildered adult violin learner like meviolin-1267

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It doesn't take money without "zip code" facepalm Can i borrow someone's zip? What ever it is...

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18446

tell them you have a Russian bank account but live in Pennsylvania

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A Zip code is what the Postal/Mail Service uses to identify a general location for where the mail is to be sent.  You may use mine which is 44062.

I would make a donation however, I just put in a $200+ order to the Fiddler Shop so I am officially out of Funds :D

 

-Dennis

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Don't pay too much attention to Composer, he just likes to have a little fun with us now and again
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Fiddlerman
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I'm glad it didn't take your zip code Naska. You need to save your pennies to visit the USA at the next Fiddlerman meet :-)

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but the one who needs the least."

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I always use my Swedish zip in these cases. It's five digits too, and most sites don't object. I've no idea where that makes them think I live, though... Does anyone know where in the US they have 11830? blink

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Fiddlerman
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I don't know how accurate this is but this is what my search came up with:

ZIP Code / Postal Code : 11830
Country : MX - Mexico
Place name : Daniel Garza
Administrative zone (level 1) : DIF - Distrito Federal
Sub-Administrative zone (level 2) : 9016 - Miguel Hidalgo
Sub-SUB-Administrative zone (level 3) : - Ciudad de Mexico
Latitude : 19.4
Longitude : -99.2

So if your products every end up in Mexico, don't be surprised. LOL

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Haha! But can you really live in Mexico and still use US only sites? dazed

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Ha-ha! Thanks, Kevin! BTW Pennsylvania is PA for short ?

.....and when i filled in all the fields.... it turned into Russianduncecap..... and i filled in again... (we have 6 numbers in zip codes rofl) but it says PayPal can't approve my cardyell  roflroflroflrofl

I'll keep trying!

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