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FiddlerEd
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Today for the first time since I started learning the fiddle 44 days ago I can not make myself want to practice... I hope I am not losing interest confused

Let time fly I am having fun.

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This is a typical first tier plateau. I think we all go thru it at about this time. Month and a half is a time when the "new" wears off. It's normal... keep listening to your violin music in the car, at home, at work, etc and listen to those pieces that keep your interest the most.

Leave the violin out where you will walk by it every day... take a day or two off and don't play at all... then go back and give it a try again just for a few minutes. Play some simple stuff like scales, just random notes, and things like that which don't put any pressure on you to perform a piece from music or a video.

You'll go thru another feeling like this at about 6 months then I suppose a year.

 

Stay on the forum, read and watch vids and stay interested...crossedfingers

"If you practice with your hands you must practice all day. Practice with your mind and you can accomplish the same amount in minutes." Nathan Milstein

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Yeah Edward,,, what Denny said.  Don't get worried or discouraged because your drive wains for periods of time; EVERYONE goes through it.  And I'd suggest EXACTLY what Denny did; leave your violin where it's VERY accessible and VERY easy to grab, even if just for a few minutes each day.  The spark will come back!

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What is it that is making you loose interest? I've only been playing violin for about a year and I understand it will take me a few years longer to start getting good at fiddling. One thing that I do when I get in a funk is just to pick up a harmonica and start jamming. It's an easy instrument to learn that harp is. The violin is probably one of the hardest instruments to learn. Understand that you can't learn an instrument over night. It takes a lot of practice but one day you will see the light.

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cdennyb said
This is a typical first tier plateau. I think we all go thru it at about this time. Month and a half is a time when the "new" wears off. It's normal... keep listening to your violin music in the car, at home, at work, etc and listen to those pieces that keep your interest the most.

Leave the violin out where you will walk by it every day... take a day or two off and don't play at all... then go back and give it a try again just for a few minutes. Play some simple stuff like scales, just random notes, and things like that which don't put any pressure on you to perform a piece from music or a video.

You'll go thru another feeling like this at about 6 months then I suppose a year.

Stay on the forum, read and watch vids and stay interested...crossedfingers

Exactly what I experienced! and I'm back!

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Glad to hear you've got it going again, pky!  I'll still reply, though, since it will happen again.  I've been there often enough myself. LOL

First off, I would agree with what has already been said.  There are natural plateaus to learning or any endeavor, and some days it is harder to find your "drive" than on others.  If you play another instrument, spend some time with that and maybe the change of pace will be enough to get you motivated again.

A day off, occasionally, isn't necessarily a bad thing either.  I would say that if it is not needed more often than maybe once a month, it is nothing major to worry about.  Go out and do something, whatever sort of things you'd normally want to do on a day off.

If possible, even on those days, run a few scales or at least bow some open notes.  Just to make sure it isn't just a day that is just being hard to get started.  At least check your tuning.

If it is a time when you have more than one day that you just don't feel motivated, that's a bit different.  I find it is still best to at least run scales or some very basic things for 15 or 20 minutes at least.  But part of any musician's life is the time we put in, practising and playing.  If possible, you don't want to let that gap get filled by something else.  That is how people end up "not having time to play anymore". 

When you started, you found time, you made the time.  You set aside a part of the day.  There are only 24 hrs in a day, and they all get filled with something.  What you don't want is for that time to be taken up by something else.  If you let that happen, it will.  It is just how the world works.

So try to still spend that time with the instrument and the music.  On such days, sometimes I will use that time to clean the instrument.  Go ever it well with a soft cloth, get it looking as good as the instruments in any shop, if you can.  If you do repairs/maintenance on your instrument(s), it can be a good time to take care of any of the little things you have been meaning to fix or dress up a bit.  Sometimes, by the time you are done, you are already looking forward to seeing how it can sound, and that is the end of the problem.

Or just spend some time admiring the instrument.  After all, part of why you got one in the first place is you liked how they look.  Whether it is showroom shiny or battle-worn from the years, I don't think I have ever seen a musical instrument where I couldn't find some things to admire.  It is part of what you paid for, so it can be good sometimes to take some time to enjoy it.  That can also lead to thinking of things you want to play.

Or maybe go and hunt up some music on the internet, visit a friend who plays, check out some more tutorials.  Maybe you will see something and think "I've gotta try that!" and there you will go again.

Even if none of those things get your motivation back right away, at least you have kept that time slot you made dedicated to your music.  You didn't just let something else take it over and crowd it out.

But I think every musician runs into the problem now and then.  I think of it like when friends who run in distance races like marathons talk about "the wall".  Certain points in any race where the going just seems more difficult.  If you keep moving, you get through it. 

"This young wine may have a lot of tannins now, but in 5 or 10 years it is going to be spectacular, despite the fact that right now it tastes like crude oil. You know this is how it is supposed to taste at this stage of development." ~ Itzhak Perlman

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Wow, Daniel, that is such good motivation! I will keep it in my violin folder to read when times get rough. Thank you!

~ Once you've ruled out the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be true. ~

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Daniel writes too much, I'll wait until the movie comes out...roflol

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Tried some different things that are related?  When you learn one aspect, the other parts get easier.

Try to play along with a tune that you like that you find on youtube.  Start out easy.

Get to know some local fiddlers or other musicians and try to learn from them and play with them.

Try out some new skill such as double stops.

Study music theory.  Intervals, scales, chords, chord progressions, etc.

Try learning to read music if you haven't.

Learn how your fiddle works and how to make simple adjustments and repairs.

Treat yourself to some upgrade such as new strings or a new bow or a different rosin.

Above all, take some advice I saw Pierre giving (approximately): learn to enjoy the simple aspects of learning and playing.

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Well the desire/need to play returned the next day. Still working on Ashokan's Farewell, and Cripple Creek. will try to put up a Ashokan video Friday.

 

Thank you all for the support, that is what makes finding this place such a joy.

Let time fly I am having fun.

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If this hits you again, definitely take some time to try some "fun" stuff.

Try finding a friend to play with, it definitely helps playing duets or with other people in general, especially on stuff that is easily done and pleasant to hear.

(Even on different instruments!)

 

Playing things easier, yet pleasant will motivate you to get back into the routine of practicing your usual stuff, since you will feel more confident and celebrate what good that you can do.

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I took my own advice and tried to play along with a little youtube Bluegrass:

Please Search Your Heart

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starting at 3:20.

Easy enough for me and fun!  And I am sure I learned it faster than doing it from music or from memory.  At 5:35 the Maestro even gives you a cue for a solo. 

Member myguitarnow says you learn intonation better when playing with somebody (cf. Suzuki), and I think he may be right.

BTW I think this number sounds a lot like "Could I Have This Dance" by Anne Murray.

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you can learn alot from watching mando players, when I chuck along in chords I make sure mine match theirs since I am the only fiddle usually. Playing along with you tube or in my case, going to a  live jam, is great experience. Im glad  your into bluegrass, another thing we have in common. jimi-hendrix

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I saw two fiddle players in this video. One with a t-shirt and one with a button up shirt. Are any of these guys you?

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but the one who needs the least."

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picklefish said
you can learn alot from watching mando players

Speaking of learning Bluegrass from mando players:

I love the fiddle attack on the opening.

Two weeks ago I didn't know who Bill Monroe was, didn't have much of a clue what bluegrass was.  Then I happened to have an email exchange with one of his former banjo players (Bill Keith), asking about the origin of "One Morning In May" by James Taylor.  It turns out that the melody for the JT version of that song can be traced back to this song, "You'll Find Her Name Written There".

@FM: I am not in the videos.

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My fiddle teacher is a former member of Bill Monroes group. (so he says) Its a small world this bluegrass thing. Its the funnest time i've had at these jams.

"Please play some wrong notes, so that we know that you are human" - said to Jascha Heifetz.

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EdwardMH said
Today for the first time since I started learning the fiddle 44 days ago I can not make myself want to practice... I hope I am not losing interest confused

Im moving into my 5th year and havent begun to get the new off. I think sometimes beginners get frustrated as this isnt an instant gratification instrument. Keep on sawin' and one day it will all just come together.

There is no shame in playing twinkle, youre playing Mozart

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I didn't feel like playing yesterday.  Didn't feel much like playing today either until I picked it up and heard the sound.  Now I want to play. 

So if you don't want to play but you do just pick it up and play, you may want to play more!

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