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bebop anyone?
Adapting bebop scales (8 notes to the scale) for blues
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....I've been off line for about 7 months, but I've recently begun adapting bebop scales (8 notes to the scale) for blues.

here are 3 scale examples:

E natural minor bop: E F# G A B C D Eb e

A bluesy bop: A B C D Eb E F# G a

C mjor-ish Swingy bop: C D Eb F# G A B c. this one has a bit of a Lydian kick, with the F# being the raised fourth.

the thing is, all these scale notes are inversions of each other, so the patterns are the same over 4 strings in the first position, and this 'formula' can of course be transposed. I'm catching on to these quicker than expected, and already working them in at the jams.

I figure if I can't play jazz, I can at least make my blues more jazzy. 

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Welcome back 

Interesting scale, I'm working on getting the 4 minor scale patterns memorised for the different fingering combonations.

 

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Thanks for the welcome back, Mark

what are the 4 that you're working on? Natural, Harmonic, Melodic... unless you count Melodic descending as separate. How 'bout Dorian & Phrygian....minor modes of the major scale.

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Blue, 

The 3 you stated I stand corrected I had miss interpreted the  article I had read, 

working on the Minor Pentatonic scale also

R, WH, W, W, WH, WR

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maybe you already know this, but if you learn an A minor pent, then you also know the C major pent. you just play around the C instead of the A. If you know the E minor pent you also know the G major pent. relative minors, yes?

same goes for a blues scale which is just one note added added to the pentatonic.

eg: A minor blues scale is A C D E Eb G a. this has an added b5 to the A minor pent, the Eb note.

C major blues scale: C D E Eb G A c. this has an added b3 to the major pent. it is also the the Eb note, but it is a b3 within the context of a C major blues scale.

...just more inversions, but the pattern is the same over 4 strings for the A min pent/A min blues scale, and the C major pent/C major blues scale. it just depends on where you start and stop and what notes you emphasize.

I play mostly out of patterns over the 4 strings. like most people, I started out learning the minor pents, then the minor blues scales. I then discovered that I had the pattern access to the corresponding Major pents and Major blues scales. which is basically the difference between a natural minor scale and a Major scale. or a minor chord and a major chord. different as night and day, but essential.

I wish someone had just showed me this along with modes very early on, instead of figuring it out mostly by myself. I guess it's my fault tho, as I didn't ask anyone.

if you already know all this, I apologize for being long winded, but perhaps it may benefit someone else. 

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Thanks blue,

I've been messing around with them trying to memorize the fingerings along with how they sound when played in tune. My new scale book, Galamin's scale book, on page one gives an exercise that states, Learn this exercise in all major and minor keys along with the recommend bowing, which there are 4 different bowing patterns. I'm figuring in about 10 years I'll get to move on to page two.

The web sight Fiddle jam institute for EZ blues finger patterns 

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Master the Frog and you have mastered the bow.

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