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gStretch
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so i've noticed people dont used the entire width of the bow to play across the strings. is there ever a time when you bow with the whole strand of hair?

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Fiddlerman
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October 17, 2011 - 12:34 am
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There are times. For example long slow bows that you would like to play without a break. Nice strong half or whole notes. Depends on tempo and style.

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so most of the time the bow the is at an angle?

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Good question! I have that angle every time.. Don't know if it's right! When i try to play whole width it sounds squeaky

ps. can't quote or enter a smiley.. =(

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Yep, slant the bow a little so the hairs face you just a bit that way you can get good friction. I don't know how to explain it but your bow strokes will sound stronger. Something to do with leverage on the bow hairs I think. The bow strokes will also sound weaker or stronger depending how close to the bridge or fingerboard. I'm learning by trial and error. I think FM thought you meant about not using the full length of the bow. There is a sweet spot on the bow strokes but make sure to practice full length bow strokes so you can learn the difference of pressure from the tip to the frog to keep even strokes.

Update: I think FM did understand and when you play long slow notes you can get a thicker sound by playing the bow flat...Hey I just woke up 😉

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October 17, 2011 - 1:08 pm
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Fiddlerman said:

There are times. For example long slow bows that you would like to play without a break. Nice strong half or whole notes. Depends on tempo and style.

Great Question. No gStretch, flat hair is great for getting a full strong rich sound. violin-student

Other situations where you should use the full flat hair of the bow are when playing staccato, marcato, and spiccato.

When making smooth bow changes or playing very softly you will want to use the right side of the hair. Quiet smooth bow changes because it gives a nice shock absorption effect.

Also, it is not one or the other. It can be anywhere between. If you work on the different angles it will kind of come by itself depending on the situation. You'll make a great student. Look forward to hearing about your first experience with your new violin.

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By the way! Always wanted to ask, if that is a problem:

 

-  When i start to play something, i put my right-hand  fingers like they have to be (trying to make it like in FiddlerMan's video). Then when i've done  - they already are higher from basic position: pinky and ring-fing at the frog, thumb climbs up to the black thing and index is in the middle of the metal thing.

 

Actually i feel comfortable, but wonder if some day right hand climb up to the tip of the bowduncecap

I tried to hold the bow stiffer - but sounds ugly facepalm 

Had someone similar problem? 

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ok thank you 🙂

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